8/31/2005 08:07:00 PM|W|P|Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|I will be participating in tomorrow's Hurricane Katrina Blog Relief Day. While my blog is dedicated to exposing Minnesota Democrats, the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina warrants attention and your donations. I am encouraging people who visit my blog to donate relief money to Catholic Charities. The Democrats I have exposed may be surpised to learn that I actually have a heart.|W|P|112554409856331959|W|P|HURRICANE KATRINA BLOG RELIEF DAY|W|P|minnesotademocratsexposed@hotmail.com8/31/2005 11:37:00 AM|W|P|Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|According to my good friend Trillin at MN Lefty Liberal, he e-mailed Coleen Rowley and asked her about my post. She responded with: "This is ridiculous. Of course I'm running for Congress, specifically CD-2. It's possible that someone made a mistake on background info and had to cross off "Senate" and put "Congress," but if so, it was just a typo. I don't understand why anyone would over-react to something so small. Coleen" I don't think it is "ridiculous" to assume if a piece of campaign literature reads "Coleen Rowley for Senate" that she is in fact running for the U.S. Senate. I am also concerned that she doesn't know who prepared her campaign literature. There is no disclaimer on the literature piece I was sent, which is a violation of Federal Election Law. Who paid for Rowley's literature? |W|P|112551350326766304|W|P|UPDATE #2: MDE EXCLUSIVE: COLEEN ROWLEY FOR SENATE?|W|P|minnesotademocratsexposed@hotmail.com8/31/2005 12:32:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Shark.bait|W|P|Well…you know what they say…ignorance is bliss!8/31/2005 02:45:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Micah|W|P|Is it at all possible that it was a DFL lit piece, created by someone who was just writing a bio on Kelly Doran or Amy Klobuchar, and used the same template to do Rowley's piece, and simply made a small mistake and didn't change the word in the header?

No, for the readers of MDE it must be the most complicated explanation possible. Either she is secretly running for U.S. Senate, or the DFL is so stupid that they actually thought she was running for Senate. Right?

Give me a break and find something that isn't a complete waste of time.8/31/2005 02:55:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|Either she is secretly running for U.S. Senate, or the DFL is so stupid that they actually thought she was running for Senate. Right? Correct!8/31/2005 02:58:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Micah|W|P|See, since you picked up that lit within the DFL booth, it would be hard to argue before the FEC that you didn't know who paid for it. Frankly if it was mailed out or even handed out by the party or her campaign, then whomever produced it should say that they paid for it.

Neat bit of trivia: Literature and newspaper ads, as long as they were produced and paid for by that individual, do not have to have any sort of attribution of who created them. I doubt this is the case with Rowley (see reason above) though.

If you want some examples of MN GOP campaign lit that has no attribution to expose on your site, let me know.8/31/2005 02:59:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Micah|W|P|MDE, see that quote that you used was clearly me being sarcastic, as indiccated in the sentense preceeding it.8/31/2005 03:03:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|Micah: Here is a neat bit of trivia: You are wrong.

Newspaper ads and literature need disclaimers. I did provide a link to the FEC's website.8/31/2005 03:11:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Micah|W|P|"Literature and newspaper ads, as long as they were produced and paid for by that individual, do not have to have any sort of attribution of who created them."

I am right, I was talking about individuals producing literature. I meant to make it more clear, and for not doing so I'm sorry.

This means that I could pay for a newspaper ad telling people to vote for Mark Kennedy and not have to disclose in the ad that I paid for it. If Mark Kennedy or the MNGOP did so though, they would have to disclose that. Same thing with lit, anonymous individual political speech is protected by the USSC.8/31/2005 03:13:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|Did an individual or did the DFL create the literature?8/31/2005 03:17:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Republican Minnesota|W|P|Micah are you saying the DFL made illegal lit for an unendorsed candidate?

Wow, the plot thinkens.8/31/2005 03:20:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|Republican Minnesota, I think you scared Micah away.8/31/2005 03:33:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Micah|W|P|I think you miss the point from my first post. You picked up this information from the DFL booth! There is a HUGE difference, seeing as how it was not lit that was mailed out or handed out (distributed on the street) at the fair. You knew where it was coming from since they had it at the DFL booth. Assuming the DFL printed this, as long as they were not A) posting it on phone polls B) handing it out on the street to fair-goers or C) Mailed it out, THEN THEY LEGALLY DON'T HAVE TO DISCLOSE WHO PAID FOR IT! I'm not sure how much you know about federal campaign laws and FEC regulations, but based on what your posts said, nothing illegal took place here.

Go to your FEC link, show me where this would be illegal. Actually, better yet, please call some GOP lawyers, ask them to put in a few hours looking into this!

BTW: My trivia had nothing to do with this at all.8/31/2005 03:38:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Micah|W|P|I'll do the work for you:

Public communications include electioneering communications and any communication made using the following media:

· Broadcast, cable or satellite;

· Newspaper or magazine;

· Outdoor advertising facility;

· Mass mailing (more than 500 substantially similar mailings within 30 days);

· Phone bank (more than 500 substantially similar calls within 30 days).
8/31/2005 03:40:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|Where I picked it up has nothing to do with who paid for it or change the need for a disclaimer to be on the document. If the DFL created the document, then the DFL needed to put a disclaimer on it.

Micah, you are just wrong.8/31/2005 03:42:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|When Disclaimer Not Required

A disclaimer is not required when:

• It cannot be conveniently printed (e.g., pens, bumper stickers, campaign pins, campaign buttons and similar small items);

• Its display is not practicable (e.g., wearing apparel, water towers and skywriting); or

• The item is of minimal value, does not contain a political message and is used for administrative purposes (e.g., checks and receipts). 110.11(f).8/31/2005 03:49:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|On printed materials, the disclaimer notice must appear within a printed box set apart from the other contents in the communication. The print must be of a sufficient type-size to be clearly readable by the recipient of the communication, and the print must have a reasonable degree of color contrast between the background and the printed statement. 11 CFR 110.11(c)(2)(i), (ii) and (iii).
Example:

Paid for by the Save the Seahorses Committee and authorized by the
McKay for Senate Committee.


As long as the disclaimer appears somewhere within the communication it does not have to appear on the front page or cover of multiple-paged documents. However, in the case of single-sided documents and billboards, the disclaimer must appear on the front. 11 CFR 110.11(c)(2)(iv).8/31/2005 03:50:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Micah|W|P|Right, those are all for "public communications". This was something that you picked up at the DFL booth, they were not just handing them out to the public.

But again, please try to get MNGOP to hire some lawyers to look into this... Like put $500,000 into a legal fund for them to bring this before the FEC. It may take two years, but if really think you are right, it could result in the DFL paying a couple hundred or thousand dollars in fines and told not to do it again. It's simply not going to happen and I'm getting a little tired of explaining the finer points of election laws to republicans.8/31/2005 03:57:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Handbag|W|P|Iranian cyberjournalist Mojtaba Lotfi and blogger Mohamad Reza Nasab Abdolahi released
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Again this is from the FEC:

When is a Disclaimer Not Required?

Although the FEC recommends that disclaimer notices be included on all campaign materials, the notices are not required in the following situations.
Disclaimer Placement is Inconvenient

In situations where a disclaimer notice cannot be conveniently printed, the notice is not required. This provision affects items such as pens, bumper stickers, campaign pins, campaign buttons and similar small items. Further, a disclaimer notice is not required for communications using skywriting, clothing, water towers or other forms of advertisement where it would be impracticable to display the disclaimer notice. 11 CFR 110.11(f) (See also AO 2002-9.)


Internal Corporate/Labor Communications

A disclaimer notice is not required for solicitations or communications made by a separate segregated fund or connected organization to its "restricted class." 6


Materials Used for Administrative Purposes Only

A disclaimer notice is not required on checks, receipts or similar items of minimal value that do not include a political message and are used only for administrative purposes. 11 CFR 110.11(f)(1)(iii).

Micah, I know it must be tough to defend Rowley's stupidity. I think you may have exposed more than you wanted to about your knowledge of this document.8/31/2005 04:05:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Republican Minnesota|W|P|Micah, last I checked the State Fair was pretty public. Some 1.3 million patrons a year.8/31/2005 05:50:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Lucy N|W|P|MDE: I was just searching your DFL competitors' sites and you put them to shame ... most of them don't even update regularly.

Micah: Did the DFL create Rowley's literature?8/31/2005 05:55:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|Lucy N: Thanks for your comments. DFLers provide me with so much free material.

Micah: I think you should answer Lucy's question.9/01/2005 10:57:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Micah|W|P|Lucy, I have no idea who created the lit. I live in Virginia now and I haven't been to the DFL booth or HQ in more than 2 years. You would have to ask them. Or, get a whole team of GOP lawyers to look into it.

I hope you are getting a cut from the gucci bag spam above...9/01/2005 05:26:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Michael M|W|P|Regardless of what is supposed to be on the literature, does anyone else see the irony of MDE clamoring for Rowley's campaign to identify itself on a hand out, when he refuses to identify himself?9/02/2005 09:48:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Shark.bait|W|P|Michael M said...
Regardless of what is supposed to be on the literature, does anyone else see the irony of MDE clamoring for Rowley's campaign to identify itself on a hand out, when he refuses to identify himself?


No...not really since he isn't running for political office that I am aware of.8/31/2005 07:06:00 AM|W|P|Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|I received this information from one of my "unimpeachable" sources. I used to work in the secretary of state office for several years under Joan Growe and under Mary Kiffmeyer for a couple of years. I don't vote a party line ticket, in fact I vote mostly for Democrats, but this candidate Christian Sande is way off base. If he's going to call for a code of ethics, he shouldn't lie in his press releases and base his press conferences on "rumors". Geez! And besides, I know for a fact that Joan used to endorse candidates and serve on committees all the time, and not only that, but she had a staff person maintain her donor database at the office, she dictated political letters for staffers to type, etc. When Mary came into the office, all of that ended. Seems like Sande is trying to address a problem that only existed when a Democrat held th office. When Joan left, most of the materials were removed from the office, but I know that some of the dictophone tapes and the computer database were left behind and that one of Mary's current staffers--one she brought on early in her tenure--still had the materials when I left. Maybe he still has them. |W|P|112549779266458040|W|P|THE MOST PARTISAN SECRETARY OF STATE: JOAN GROWE|W|P|minnesotademocratsexposed@hotmail.com8/31/2005 08:19:00 AM|W|P|Blogger DFL Governor|W|P|Do you have anything better to do than to try and discredit someone not even mentioned in the original story.8/31/2005 04:35:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|Nope, I have nothing better to do than point out how partisan Joan Growe was as Minnesota's Secretary of State.8/31/2005 06:43:00 AM|W|P|Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|

Christian Sande, a DFL candidate for Secretary of State, wants to stop state election officials from participating in partisan politics. Sande thinks the best way to communicate this message is by having a press conference where he falsely accuses Kiffmeyer of co-chairing President Bush's Minnesota campaign. This is my favorate quote: "[t]he office of secretary of state must rise above party politics and avoid any perception of favoritism." Sande is doing exactly what he says he won't do if he is elected. ## DFLer seeks curbs on partisan politics Impartiality is sought for state officials

A candidate for the Democratic-Farmer-Labor nomination to run for Minnesota Secretary of State called Tuesday for legislation that would bar state election officials from actively participating in political campaigns other than their own.

Christian Sande, a Minneapolis lawyer, said public confidence in the disputed 2000 presidential election in Florida was damaged because Katherine Harris, then Florida's secretary of state, had campaigned for President Bush.

"The office of secretary of state must rise above party politics and avoid any perception of favoritism," Sande said in a news release.

Sande told a reporter that he had no proof of misconduct by Mary Kiffmeyer, Minnesota's current secretary of state. But he said he had heard "rumors" that Kiffmeyer, a longtime Republican activist, was co-chairing Bush's Minnesota's 2004 campaign and had written a letter on behalf of the campaign. If that were true, it would diminish Kiffmeyer's credibility as an impartial overseer of elections, he charged.

Kiffmeyer, in an interview, denied playing any official role in Bush's campaign last year, and she accused Sande of telling "lies" in his news release. She said she cut back her involvement in partisan politics after she was elected secretary of state in 1998 to avoid an appearance of a conflict of interest.

Kiffmeyer said she did not know whether any members of her elections staff have been active in campaigns. Source: Pioneer Press, August 31, 2005

|W|P|112549585034515608|W|P|EXPOSED: CHRISTIAN SANDE|W|P|minnesotademocratsexposed@hotmail.com8/30/2005 12:32:00 PM|W|P|Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|
Within minutes of my post, a dedicated reader of Minnesota Democrats Exposed sent me this picture. Rowley's literature has been recently corrected. "Senate" has been blocked-out with a black marker and "Congress" has been written above.|W|P|112543033212640274|W|P|UPDATE: MDE EXCLUSIVE: COLEEN ROWLEY FOR SENATE?|W|P|minnesotademocratsexposed@hotmail.com8/30/2005 12:37:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Shark.bait|W|P|LOL!!!

Way to help out the Dems! If they win the election, I'm going to be mad at you!8/30/2005 04:25:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Inside_source|W|P|MDE....wait a minute. I refuse to believe that a group of people could be so completely stupid.

Are you 100% ABSOLUTELY sure this is true?8/30/2005 06:39:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Lucy N|W|P|MDE ... you've done it again! How do you find this stuff?8/30/2005 06:44:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Micah|W|P|Clearly this woman is not qualified for office because someone in the DFL typed the wrong office in the header.

If that's the best you have, this election should be a cake-walk.8/30/2005 07:07:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Lucy N|W|P|Micah you sad, sad fool.

Coleen Rowley's literature is the most pathetic campaign handout I've ever seen. A candidate for City Council would be embarrassed to distribute something that lame and poorly designed.

Then, to top it off, they name the wrong office. And instead of producing new literature to proudly share her talents and positions with voters at the Fair in a professional manner, they just scribble out "Senate" and scratch in "Congress" above it.

You're right Micah, she's a formidable candidate.8/30/2005 07:15:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|Inside source: This is true.

Lucy N: The DFL makes it so easy to find this stuff8/30/2005 09:44:00 PM|W|P|Blogger ReaganBlows|W|P|Maybe Cheney called and told her she was running for the Senate now.8/31/2005 11:04:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Trillin|W|P|I e-mailed her campaign and got the following response:

"This is ridiculous. Of course I'm running for Congress, specifically CD-2. It's possible that someone made a mistake on background info and had to cross off "Senate" and put "Congress," but if so, it was just a typo. I don't understand why anyone would over-react to something so small. Coleen"

Still a stupid mistake...8/31/2005 03:05:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Micah|W|P|Lucy,

I'm pretty sure it was someone in the DFL that created the lit, and would have no sort of coordination with Rowley's camp. If that's the case, blame someone in the DFL. I don't say Mark Kennedy's campaign is doomed because the MNGOP website kinda sucks (it's doomed for a dozen other reasons though).8/31/2005 03:10:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|Micah: Do you have information that the DFL created Rowley's literature?8/30/2005 10:35:00 AM|W|P|Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|
This literature piece for Coleen Rowley's campaign was available inside the DFL's booth at the Minnesota State Fair. Is Rowley now running for the U.S. Senate? I don't know what scares me more: Rowley actually being elected to the U.S. Senate or a campaign (or volunteers) producing literature that shows the wrong office the candidate is actually running for? UPDATE: I may be scared the most by nobody at the DFL booth noticing the headline before this material was made available to visitors. UPDATE #2: Is this why Rowley was campaigning in Rochester which is outside the 2nd Congressional District? |W|P|112542330070409259|W|P|MDE EXCLUSIVE: COLEEN ROWLEY FOR SENATE?|W|P|minnesotademocratsexposed@hotmail.com8/30/2005 12:01:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Tony|W|P|We called her campaign to ask her for an interview. We are in the 6th. The manager called back this morning and said that she would be interested in trying to move her schedule a bit to do an interview. And that she does not like to turn down interview requests, even if they might be out of her district.

Maybe this is why she is also doing the national shows like Hardball (which I dissected on my blog), O'Reilley, etc.8/30/2005 12:26:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Kevin from Minneapolis|W|P|Look, I don't mean to be mean or anything, but that "literature piece" was as plain looking as she is. Ick! Spend a little money and make it at least look like you have a clue about anything.

I have to wonder if her or a staffer failed to follow her campaign motto of "Always try" when putting that gawdawful piece together.8/30/2005 08:08:00 AM|W|P|Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|CASH SOUGHT TO HELP HURRICANE VICTIMS, VOLUNTEERS SHOULD NOT SELF-DISPATCH Washington, D.C. - Voluntary organizations are seeking cash donations to assist victims of Hurricane Katrina in Gulf Coast states, according to Michael D. Brown, Under Secretary of Homeland Security for Emergency Preparedness and Response. But, volunteers should not report directly to the affected areas unless directed by a voluntary agency. "Cash donations are especially helpful to victims," Brown said. "They allow volunteer agencies to issue cash vouchers to victims so they can meet their needs. Cash donations also allow agencies to avoid the labor-intensive need to store, sort, pack and distribute donated goods. Donated money prevents, too, the prohibitive cost of air or sea transportation that donated goods require." Volunteer agencies provide a wide variety of services after disasters, such as clean up, childcare, housing repair, crisis counseling, sheltering and food. "We're grateful for the outpouring of support already," Brown said. "But it's important that volunteer response is coordinated by the professionals who can direct volunteers with the appropriate skills to the hardest-hit areas where they are needed most. Self-dispatched volunteers and especially sightseers can put themselves and others in harm's way and hamper rescue efforts." Here is a list of phone numbers set up solely for cash donations and/or volunteers. Donate cash to: American Red Cross 1-800-HELP NOW (435-7669) English, 1-800-257-7575 Spanish; Operation Blessing 1-800-436-6348 America's Second Harvest 1-800-344-8070 Donate Cash to and Volunteer with: Adventist Community Services 1-800-381-7171 Catholic Charities, USA 703 549-1390 Christian Disaster Response 941-956-5183 or 941-551-9554 Christian Reformed World Relief Committee 1-800-848-5818 Church World Service 1-800-297-1516 Convoy of Hope 417-823-8998 Lutheran Disaster Response 800-638-3522 Mennonite Disaster Service 717-859-2210 Nazarene Disaster Response 888-256-5886 Presbyterian Disaster Assistance 800-872-3283 Salvation Army 1-800-SAL-ARMY (725-2769) Southern Baptist Convention -- Disaster Relief 1-800-462-8657, ext. 6440 United Methodist Committee on Relief 1-800-554-8583 For further information: visit the website for the National Voluntary Organizations Active in Disaster (NVOAD) at: http://www.nvoad.org/. FEMA prepares the nation for all hazards and manages federal response and recovery efforts following any national incident. FEMA also initiates mitigation activities, trains first responders, works with state and local emergency managers, and manages the National Flood Insurance Program and the U.S. Fire Administration. FEMA became part of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security on March 1, 2003. ###|W|P|112541489509925589|W|P|HELP VICTIMS OF HURRICANE KATRINA|W|P|minnesotademocratsexposed@hotmail.com8/30/2005 08:19:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Trillin|W|P|Hope you don't mind...gonna steal this post and put it on Lefty Liberal8/30/2005 08:46:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Andy Smith|W|P|I think I'll do the same for Minnesota Blue. Let me know if you don't want it coppied. I don't see why you would though.8/30/2005 08:53:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|Please use this.8/31/2005 02:48:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Micah|W|P|I want to know why the Red Cross is the only non-Christian organization on that list. Not to say that faith-based groups don't do good work - they do - but are there really no other disaster aid groups?8/29/2005 07:38:00 AM|W|P|Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|According to Keith Ellison: "Too many people would divide us, when we need to be united against discrimination, bigotry, and hate." Source: Keith Ellison's campaign website. If we need to be united against bigotry and hate, why then did Ellison coordinate the Nation of Islam's Million Man March for Minnesota? Ellison appeared with Khalid Abdul Muhammed at an organizing rally at the University of Minnesota. Muhammed said, "I'm sorry. I'm just hard on the white man. I was born to give this cracker hell from cradle to the grave." Source: Star Tribune, September 14, 1995 Before tomorrow's event at the DFL Party booth, Ellison should apologize.|W|P|112532696217397562|W|P|ELLISON'S DOUBLE-TALK|W|P|minnesotademocratsexposed@hotmail.com8/29/2005 08:14:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Kevin from Minneapolis|W|P|I was watching Minneapolis public access tv one night and Ellison was telling a group of young black students that the Capitol was built to keep (not exactly sure of the wording here, but this is pretty close to what he said) people like us (refering to the people in the room, all of whom were black) out.

I've been to the Capitol several times. Doors seem pretty wide open to everyone from what I've seen.8/29/2005 09:10:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Shark.bait|W|P|Ah…but remember, the DFL is nothing without victims.

It’s not my fault I’m poor; it’s not my fault I’m fat; it’s not my fault I don’t have a job; it’s not my fault I don’t have any education; it’s not my fault my kids are undisciplined! Someone, please help save me from the evil (insert noun here)’s oppression!

Liberalism: the haunting fear someone, somewhere, can help themselves.8/29/2005 09:50:00 AM|W|P|Blogger ReaganBlows|W|P|It's not my fault they didn't have Weapons of Mass Destruction...It's not my fault the national debt is growing out of control... It's not my fault I'm on vacation half the year... It's not my fault oil prices are out of control and energy lobbyists wrote the recent energy bill... It's not my fault the economy sucks and consumer confidence is going down.. Blame the Democrats they control Washington... oh wait we control the White House and Congress.. dang... It's not my fault that we preach morality and responsiblity, but never practice it... it's those gulf war moms and gay marriage people that are destroying our country...8/29/2005 10:46:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Shark.bait|W|P|It's not my fault they didn't have Weapons of Mass Destruction...

How quickly we forget that we were not the only country who suspected that they had WMD…how quickly we forget that the information wasn’t determined to be suspect until AFTER the invasion…how quickly we forget that many DFL members voted for the war. And while weapons my not yet have been found, remember we are looking in a sandbox the size of Wisconsin. Every try to find your sons/daughters toys they buried at the beach? Add to it the vast amounts of money Hussein had to make deals with to move them, perhaps to another country, and I think we might still find something. Even if we did, can you honestly tell me that the world would be a better place with Hussein still in power?

It's not my fault the national debt is growing out of control...

How quickly we forget that wars cost money…but the price that we are paying now vs. wagging the war on our own soil is, is priceless.

It's not my fault I'm on vacation half the year...

Give it a rest already, will you? Being President is a 24/7 job. Even when he is on “vacation” he is still working.

It's not my fault oil prices are out of control and energy lobbyists wrote the recent energy bill...

Oil prices are out of control due to speculation on the price of oil…there is no reason why the price of oil should be as high as it is…and, I would like to mention, that the price of gas/energy here is STILL a bargain compared to just about anywhere else in the world. Ever fill up your tank in Germany?

It's not my fault the economy sucks and consumer confidence is going down…

Nice try, it took a MINOR dip in July,
http://www.conference-board.org/economics/consumerConfidence.cfm
“This month’s decline (July) in Consumer Confidence is no cause for concern,” says Lynn Franco, Director of the Conference Board’s Consumer Research Center. “The overall state of the economy remains healthy and consumers’ outlook suggests no storm clouds on the short-term horizon. Even the steady upward tick of fuel prices at the pump has done relatively little to dampen consumers’ spirits. Yet, while there is little to suggest a downturn in activity, there is also little to suggest a pickup.”

Blame the Democrats they control Washington...

The only think I blame the Democrats in power on is alarming people about thinks that are bogus, like claiming that the economy sucks.

Oh wait we control the White House and Congress.
And this is a good thing!

It's not my fault that we preach morality and responsibility, but never practice it...

Really? Example please?

It’s those gulf war moms and gay marriage people that are destroying our country...

I don’t remember hearing anyone of importance (other than that religious whacko Robertson.) saying any of this…but I do find humor in your bringing up the question of morality followed by a comment on gay marriage…8/29/2005 12:00:00 PM|W|P|Blogger ReaganBlows|W|P|Well the fact is they didn't have WMD's. There is no proof they ever had WMD's. Israel's strike of their nuclear plant made even the thought of it incredibly unlikely. The President knew they didn't have WMD's, but used it as a sorry excuse to convince people to support this ill conceived and planned war.

You are right Wars cost money, but that doesn't explain tax cuts to the wealthy? Or tax breaks to the Oil companies? Or to bash Democrats for spending, when Bush is creating the largest debt in history. To have the Republicans claim fiscal responsiblity on the federal level is nothing but sick joke.

As for a vacation, ask nearly anyone if they get that much vacation where they work or if they think it is appropriate and they will tell you no. When your an ex-president living him on the lam, sit at home and split wood and clear brush all you want, but when you are the President you have a job to do (and a war to get us the hell out of).

That's the funnist line the Republicans always say "fight them over there, so we don't have to fight them here". Remember 9/11 we don't choose where the hell they attack us, those nutballs will attack us anywhere they can. A war in Iraq doesn't do anything to prevent an attack in America. It also isn't an wonderful situation fighting them over there. Not knowing who is a terrorist or cilivian, being able to cross across the border easy, easy access to explosives and weapons, a population that doesn't want the US there and is more likely to hide the terrorist and a prime location for all the middle east countries to send their suicide bombers to.

Oil prices are going up because Bush and his cronies have refused to do any meaningful investment in alternative energy. He would rather keep his oil buddies happy then rock the boat and cut into their profits. His answer to all of this is to go drill in Alaska, so we can spend billions to drill up there, but at the end of the day it will still be cheaper to import oil then to produce it here. Oil companies are making insane profits, why do they need taxpayers dollars for more subsidies?

As for the economy, the experts can argue what they want, but people do not feel confident. The stock market is still not as high as around 9/11. Just look at the polls concerning W's handling of the economy, people are not happy.

As far as not preaching what they preach (morality and all that jazz), Mr. Norm Coleman is a prime example, he has had countless affairs and it makes me sick he put his kids in those lame TV ads. Then you have Rush the drug man. Newt is always a favorite and who can forget Rod Grams, oh yeah and good old rebel yell Strom. If you are preaching family values you should live them or else shut up and not use them to get elected.

As far as gay marriage it's just a ploy to win elections, we all know that. Sure there are some evangelicals out there that think the Republicans really care about this issue and don't realize it is just a campaign tool. They are the same ones that think Bush actually reads the Bible. Divide and conquer. If people voted with their pocket book, Republicans would be losing elections left and right.8/29/2005 01:02:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Sipidation|W|P|Well the fact is they didn't have WMD's. There is no proof they ever had WMD's.

You are an idiot. Maybe you would like to tell that to the Kurds? Try looking up March 1988.

Perhaps you should also explain it to these people as well:

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." -- From a letter signed by Joe Lieberman, Dianne Feinstein, Barbara A. Milulski, Tom Daschle, & John Kerry among others on October 9, 1998

Oh wait, it is only a lie if a Republican says it right?8/29/2005 01:10:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|Sipidation is my hero!8/29/2005 01:38:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Shark.bait|W|P|Well done, Sipidation! Thanks...I was looking for that letter too but you beat me to the punch!8/29/2005 01:55:00 PM|W|P|Blogger ReaganBlows|W|P|Chemical Weapons are not WMD. Sure we know they had chemical weapons, heck we even got Rummy shaking Saddam's hand. We gave them tons of intelligence in the Iraq-Iran war. We didn't seem to have a problem with them then, when they were killing innocent people.

Maybe Bush's father, would like to tell the Kurds why he abadoned them after Gulf War I and let thousands of them be slaughtered?
He didn't care to do anything then, when he obviously had the military advantage and opportunity to do so.

The question is about nuclear material and from all the information that I have seen, they didn't have a very functional (if any) program at the time of the US invasion, unlike Iran and North Korea.8/29/2005 02:30:00 PM|W|P|Blogger John Jordan.com|W|P|Chemical Weapons are not WMD.

Maybe the sky is different in your world.

Of course chemical weapons are WMD. They fit the very definition of WMD.

The "Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons" sure disagrees with you.

http://www.opcw.org/html/db/cwc/eng/cwc_frameset.html

What a ridiculous statement.8/29/2005 05:47:00 PM|W|P|Blogger lloydletta|W|P|This seems like an opposition research Dump on Keith Ellison. Keith is my representative. I supported one of his opponents when he ran for the first time (Duane Reed). As long as Keith is in this district, he will have the seat. I've heard that Senator Higgins might be planning to run for county commissioner - and if she goes for county commissioner, Keith will go for State Senator. Then I heard that whoever loses the 5th ward city council race will run for Keith's seat.

Linda Higgins would not respond to my requests for comment.8/29/2005 06:41:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Eightgun|W|P|ReaganBlows, you are truly a magnificent bloviator--one of the greats. I haven't heard anything so dogmatic since...well, since the last Howard Dean soundbite. Are you a true believer in Democrat talking points? You sound like it.8/29/2005 09:54:00 PM|W|P|Blogger ReaganBlows|W|P|You guys can keep buying the spin on Iraq, but I think most Americans aren't buying into it. Our action in Iraq is a horrible foreign policy choice that will haunt us for decades. It is pretty clear that Iraq posed no greater threat to the US then any other country in the region. Nearly 2,000 dead and over 10,000 injured doesn't sound like they are "greating us as liberators" to me.8/30/2005 05:46:00 AM|W|P|Blogger John Jordan.com|W|P|You guys can keep buying the spin on Iraq

You sound like Cindy Sheehan - everyone's brainwashed but her.8/30/2005 06:28:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Shark.bait|W|P|You guys can keep buying the spin on Iraq, but I think most Americans aren't buying into it.

It sounds to me that you are buying into the spin from the left, especially when you say that chemical weapons are not WMD!8/30/2005 06:36:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Kevin from Minneapolis|W|P|It is pretty clear that Iraq posed no greater threat to the US then any other country in the region.

What does the left not understand about the post-9/11 world? Is that what you would want us to do - wait until a country poses a direct threat to us? As long as the will of our enemies to die is greater than our will to live I would prefer we face down gathering threats before they fully materialize.

And that's what Iraq was -- a gathering threat. We know Saddam was actively subverting the UN sanctions and the Oil-for-Food program and that he enticed enough foreign officials to his side that given a few more years he would have had support at the UN to lift sanctions and at that point many believed he was going to restart is nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs.

Of course, now he'll never have that chance, no thanks needed to the American left.8/30/2005 07:35:00 AM|W|P|Blogger ReaganBlows|W|P|Iraq, unlike Iran, was not a gathering threat. Their army had low morale, old and outdated equipment, a small airforce of little use and what they did have they could not use due to the no fly zone.

Iran, North Korea and China are visable threats to our country and the focus should be on them, instead of spending billions of dollars and thousands of lives in Iraq.

Invading Iraq (and Abu Ghraib) unfortunately gave the terrorists a golden recruiting tool and a perfect senario in which to kill American troops.8/30/2005 07:53:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Shark.bait|W|P|Iran, North Korea and China are visable threats to our country and the focus should be on them, instead of spending billions of dollars and thousands of lives in Iraq.

You're not suggesting that we invade N. Korea or China, are you?

First of all, China only seems to be a current threat to Taiwan, and N. Korea citizens are so brainwashed from birth into thinking that the US is the evil empire, that Iraq would see like a walk in Central Park in comparison!8/30/2005 09:09:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Kevin from Minneapolis|W|P|Exactly. The left mentions all these other countries that it thinks were a bigger threat, but can you imagine the fuss they would throw if the US invaded any of them? Iraq is a cakewalk compared to a war with China or North Korea.

But I digress. The left has done such a fabulous job of limiting the discussion of Iraq to 1) why we went and 2) how many Americans are being killed that they have effectively taken control of the Iraq issue. They have done a truly masterful job of cutting off the flow of positive news and driving public support down to the point where it may help them in the 2006 elections.

Congratulations to the American left. You've managed to further your own electoral prospects and aid terrorism at the same time. You guys must be proud.8/30/2005 10:46:00 AM|W|P|Blogger MNInsider|W|P|"Maybe Bush's father, would like to tell the Kurds why he abadoned them after Gulf War I and let thousands of them be slaughtered?
He didn't care to do anything then, when he obviously had the military advantage and opportunity to do so."

But going in now and defending the weak by removing an evil regime is bad when in 1992 it would have been good? I'm confused.8/30/2005 11:17:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Abrogans|W|P|the party opposite said...
What does the left not understand about the post-9/11 world? Is that what you would want us to do - wait until a country poses a direct threat to us? As long as the will of our enemies to die is greater than our will to live I would prefer we face down gathering threats before they fully materialize.

Shark.bait said...
You're not suggesting that we invade N. Korea or China, are you?

??? Which is it? Do we wait until they pose a direct threat or not?

ReaganBlows said...
Chemical Weapons are not WMD.

This is a silly statement.


The problem that I see here is that evidence of Iraqi wmd programs were offered up for the world to see as justification for invading Iraq. Most countries did not agree that there was sufficient evidence of this. We went into this war without international support and now we are stuck in a quagmire. We will be dumping money and lives into Iraq for years to come. I personally do not feel that attacking Iraq has made us any safer. In fact, it may have made things worse. These people were upset that we were imposing our military, beliefs and lifestyle on them. (Not much of an excuse for killing innocent people, but...) So we attack and take over a week country in the middle east that is one of the most non-secular countries in the region. I cannot see how this would discourage them and from the looks of what is going on it hasn't.

I think that we should look to the past. Look at Great Britain and France. They lost much of the terriorty that they once had due to overextending their resources. We could also learn something from our own past. Vietnam. When will we learn that you cannot change people overnight. Especially with force. Take China for example. We seldomly agree with China on anything and see them as a potential threat, however, over the years they have opened their markets (to some degree) and Chinese Citizens are getting a taste of the west. With diplomacy and market forces eventually China will become more democratic. Obviously this no answer for Iraq either before or after we invaded. Where we go from here? Can't say that I support an immediate withdrawal as this would put Iraq into a tailspin and would then certainly be a terrorist breeding ground. However, we really should pull out asap. We also should mend relationships with other countries. It would be nice if we were not bearing the brunt of this. But these are the choices that have been made by those with the "mandate" from the people, and we will have to live with it.8/30/2005 12:06:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Shark.bait|W|P|Abrogans said...
??? Which is it? Do we wait until they pose a direct threat or not?

N. Korea is not exactly what I would call a direct threat, and I certainly wouldn’t call China one.

While Korea MIGHT have nukes (I’m willing to bet that they have some untested nukes) they do not yet have the ability to hit us (at least not that they have been able to demonstrate). I would also like to point out Kim Jong II, and while he teaches his country’s kids, from birth, that he is basically “God”, he knows better than that in foreign affairs. He relies quite heavily in foreign aid to feed his people because he has spent much of his country’s resources to develop and maintain his military. NO ONE in the world, not even China, the closest thing that they can call an ally, would defend them if they attached us.

This brings me to China. While you are correct that China gets a taste of the west, there is little hope that they will ever truly go to a democratic government because the government has woven itself into every aspect of the country. Foreign investors, such as GM or Ford, who have decided to build factories over there, do so in partnership with the government. Diplomacy to change them, name one time that diplomacy alone as changed a government?

Market forces will change China? Right now China has such a strong hold on the EU and US that you have it backward…CHINA’S market forces dictate how WE do business. I speak on this with some authority, as I am a Global Buyer specializing in procurement out of the Far East, specifically CHINA. China was/is having such a large impact on the US dollar that we just had to get them to adjust how they valued their currency in order for us not to impose more tariffs and restrictions on what we import from them.

Now, the last think I want to touch on is your comment about us, ”imposing our military, beliefs and lifestyle on them.”.

First, our military is only there right now in an effort to help stabilize things while a new government is put in place, by the people of Iraq I would like to add. Imposing out beliefs? If you mean religious, then you are sadly mistaking. If you are referring to the belief in democracy, then you are correct, we are guiding them away from an oppressive dictatorship, like the one we suffered under with Britain ruled us, and we are replacing it with what the majority of the world sees as the best form of government, democracy.

Lastly, lifestyle…I’m sure that having better water treatment facilities, more reliable electricity and having the freedom to have whatever lifestyle they choose is sure a lot better then the fear and oppression that they suffered under Hussein.

I also want to point out the hypocrisy in your statements…on the one hand you say that the Chinese are getting a taste of the West, and yet you say that we are imposing that on Iraq and that is bad…so, I ask back at you, which is it?8/30/2005 01:50:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Abrogans|W|P|There is no hypocrisy. It is simply how the foreign policies are implemented. China - we are not imposing ourselves upon them. They have invited us in. Iraq is quite a bit different situation. We invaded their country, toppled their dictator/government and killed innocent people (obviously unavoidable in an action like this). Two completely different situations from the outset and cannot be compared. My thoughts on China are losely based on modernization theory and feel that China will eventually become more democratic. It just may take a long time.

I just thought that the statement from the party opposite was a bit broad and should not be applied in all situations. Obviously, North Korea poses a bigger threat (as a nation) to us than Iraq ever did, but I am sure that all would agree that it would not be in our best interst to premptively attack N. Korea because we feel threatened by them.


First, our military is only there right now in an effort to help stabilize things while a new government is put in place

Do you really believe this? I personally do not see any end in sight any time soon. When I say soon, I mean years. Do you think that we will be removing all our forces even after things are stabilized? Hmmm... with Iran and Syria next door, I doubt it.

Imposing out beliefs? If you mean religious, then you are sadly mistaking

No, I did not mean religion at all.

Can democracy be forced upon a population? I don't think so. I think that it is something that evolves over time.8/30/2005 02:00:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Shark.bait|W|P|Yes, I do really believe that we are there, in mass, for only another year or two...after that, yes, we will still be there, but not in the numbers we are now.

I also don't feel like we are forcing democracy on the people, it seems that the people what this. As an example, one of the current sticking points in the constitution is the role women will have...while we might be encouraging them having an equal role, the true decision is theirs.3/20/2006 09:48:00 AM|W|P|Blogger StPaul_DFLer|W|P|Well, today 3/20/2006, all of you especially John Jordan seem to have been mislead. The American people overwhelmingly want out and beleive we were mislead into this war with no plan. They also beleive the President is incompetent.

Mr Jordan and all, you owe Reagan Blows an apology or at least acknowledgement that the vast majority of Americans now believe as Cindy Sheehan stated and Howard Dean emphasized- we were lied to and are making things worse.8/28/2005 01:01:00 PM|W|P|Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|According to the most recent DFL Dispatch, State Representative Keith Ellison is moderating a discussion at the DFL's booth at the Minnesota State Fair on Tuesday, August 30. 7:00PM - Minnesota Stories. Minnesotans talk about why they are Democrats, part of an ongoing summer-long project of the DFL Party. Moderated by State Representative Keith Ellison (Minneapolis). Based on some of Ellison's previous statements and activities, I question the DFL's decision to have him moderate this event. In 1997, Ellison came out in support of Joanne Jackson. Jackson was the executive director of the Minneapolis Initiative Against Racism, and was threatened with losing her job for saying "Jews are the most racist white people I know." Ellison said that the board's first initiative against racism should "be directed at itself, or at least the 11 board members who voted to dismiss Joanne Jackson" for her comments. Source: Star Tribune, February 3, 1997

In 1995, Ellison coordinated the Nation of Islam's Million Man March for Minnesota. He appeared with Khalid Abdul Muhammed at an organizing rally at the University of Minnesota. Muhammed said, "I'm sorry. I'm just hard on the white man. I was born to give this cracker hell from cradle to the grave." Source: Star Tribune, September 14, 1995

In 1995, Ellison spoke out on the Qubilah Shabazz trial. Shabazz, daughter of Malcom X, was charged with conspiracy to commit murder against Louis Farrakhan. Shabazz is known to believe Farrakhan was behind the assassination of her father. Ellison said of the case, "I would call the government's conduct into question." Source: Pioneer Press, May 1, 1995

In 1993, Ellison ridiculed the DFL, "The DFL, the so-called party of the common man, is not raising questions about the punitiveness of this legislation." (Referring to a federal crime bill that put 100,000 more police on the streets and build more prisons.) Source: Star Tribune, December 17, 1993

At a rally in 1992, Ellison claimed, "Black people do not live under a democracy. You don't have an obligation to obey a government that considers you to be less than human." He was joined in the rally by Spike Moss, who threatened the attendees, "If there is one uniform sticking it to a black man and there are six of you seeing that uniform stick it to him, bring it to him. If I find out your name, and you didn't bring it to him, I'll bring it to you." Source: Star Tribune, May 1, 1992

Wow. I encourage you to stop by the booth and ask Ellison about these statements. Does Ellison think he "was born to give this cracker hell from cradle to the grave?"

Does Ellison still think someone who says "Jews are the most racist white people I know" should be able to keep their job as head of an organization dedicated to fighting racism?

|W|P|112526189500365671|W|P|I QUESTION THE DFL'S DECISION|W|P|minnesotademocratsexposed@hotmail.com8/28/2005 02:23:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Direct TV Deals|W|P|This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.8/28/2005 02:36:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Phoenix|W|P|This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.8/28/2005 02:41:00 PM|W|P|Blogger herman|W|P|This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.8/28/2005 02:50:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Quit Smoking|W|P|This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.8/28/2005 02:50:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Coolout|W|P|This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.8/28/2005 07:14:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Jessica|W|P|I can't stop reading your blog. Keep up the good work.8/28/2005 09:26:00 PM|W|P|Blogger ReaganBlows|W|P|Where's Arlon Linder when you need him?8/29/2005 05:50:00 AM|W|P|Blogger John Jordan.com|W|P|MDE - I'm curious, what were in the messages that were removed?8/29/2005 06:10:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Jerry Plagge, Jr.|W|P|John... It looks like some scumbags have figured out how to "spam" blog comments now. It looks like most of them removed were spam.

"Direct TV Deals", "Quit Smoking", etc.

I created a new test blog the other day and within an hour I had 5 to 10 "spam" comments posted.

MDE,
You should switch over to a different comment tool like www.haloscan.com or something like that.8/29/2005 06:41:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|Thanks SD 63. It was spam comments. I am moving to Haloscan.com8/29/2005 01:27:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Trillin|W|P|Since I moved to Halo I have stoped getting the spam..highly suggested8/29/2005 02:31:00 PM|W|P|Blogger John Jordan.com|W|P|Ahhh....thanks.8/28/2005 11:05:00 AM|W|P|Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|Turns out that Mike Hatch has some close tobacco industry connections. Maybe that's why he appears to be siding with Big Tobacco in the motion they filed on Friday against the state of Minnesota over the health impact fee.
Hatch's Record on Tobacco Industry Contributions
1998 Campaign: Hatch Says No To Tobacco Money. "The four major-party contenders for Minnesota attorney general, the state's key job in taking on the tobacco industry, swore off campaign contributions from tobacco company employees and their lobbyists Tuesday. ...Mike Hatch, another DFL candidate and former state commerce commissioner, did not attend the press conference but has signed the pledge, association officials said." (Jim Ragsdale, "Attorney General Hopefuls Refuse Tobacco Money; Candidates Sign Campaign Pledge Not To Take Contributions," St. Paul Pioneer Press, September 17, 1997) April 2002: Hatch Doesn't Know If He Has Accepted Tobacco Money. "[Dr. Richard] Hurt invited Hatch to join forces in a series of community meetings that MPAAT has scheduled across the state to discuss reducing tobacco use. He urged Hatch to appoint two people to the MPAAT board, as he is permitted to do under the court order. He also called on Hatch not to accept campaign donations from tobacco interests. Hatch said he will not comply with the first two requests until the legal issues are resolved, and he said he won't accept future campaign contributions from the tobacco industry. He said he didn't know if he had ever accepted them in the past." (Josephine Marcotty, "Hatch, Antitobacco Group Butt Heads; He Calls MPAAT Antismoking Efforts Inadequate," Star Tribune, April 24, 2002) May 2002: Pulse Reports Hatch Repeatedly Accepted Contributions From Big Tobacco And Relied Upon Tobacco Lobbyist To Organize Fundraisers. "Dorothy Kelm (the wife of Tom Kelm, tobacco lobbyist) gave you $1,000 on 4/23/98. Good old reliable tobacco lobbyist Charlie Westin gave you $350 in your last campaign in '98. Christine Horasdovsky, wife of tobacco lobbyist Dave Horasdovsky, gave you $500. That was after your pledge in '98 to not accept tobacco campaign contributions. Since then, tobacco lobbyist Cort Holten has given you $200, and R. J. Reynolds tobacco lobbyist Ron Jerich has been very active in your present campaign. He organized and bankrolled fundraisers for you in 1999, buying food and beverages ($700). He and his wife donated $200 each last year, and he spent $500 on throwing you another fundraiser last June." (Ed Felien, "Gee Mike, We Thought You Knew!" Pulse Of The Twin Cities, May 1, 2002) May 2002: MPR Reports Hatch Reimbursed R.J. Reynolds Lobbyist Ron Jerich Three Times. "When [Skip] Humphrey ran for governor right after the state's landmark tobacco trial, he vowed he wouldn't accept cash or fundraising help from anyone associated with the tobacco industry. Campaign Finance Board records show Hatch's campaign reimbursed one of the state's most influential lobbyists, Ron Jerich, on three occassions [sic] for fundraising. Fundraisers can steer far more money into campaign coffers than single contributions, which are capped in Minnesota. Both Jerich and his wife are registered lobbyists for R. J. Reynolds." (Elizabeth Stawicki, "Hatch's Tobacco Ties Questioned On Eve Of Court Fight," Minnesota Public Radio Website, May 16, 2002)|W|P|112525285790573250|W|P|HATCH SIDING WITH BIG TOBACCO|W|P|minnesotademocratsexposed@hotmail.com8/28/2005 10:32:00 AM|W|P|Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|
Source: Democratic Underground
This is a picture from inside the DFL's booth at the Minnesota State Fair. Somebody thinks they are "wright", rather than "right."
|W|P|112525033515752130|W|P|I KNOW YOU ARE WRONG|W|P|minnesotademocratsexposed@hotmail.com8/28/2005 03:58:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Micah|W|P|Are you sure Republican Minnesota didn't write that?8/29/2005 12:35:00 AM|W|P|Blogger North Star Politics|W|P|And what's wrong with this? Democrats can be Democrats no matter what their education. I, for one, welcome even Democrats who can't spell.8/29/2005 07:03:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Shark.bait|W|P|I know a couple of Democrats who can’t spell…I received a Christmas card from a DFL teacher friend that said, Mary Christmas”. I don’t care if someone is a GOP or a DFL member, but when stupid mistakes like this are made; I have to question their ability to make a rational decision when it comes to part choice.

Unfortunately, Constitution never placed an IQ requirement to vote.8/29/2005 08:31:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Republican Minnesota|W|P|Micah, I didn't know you left comments at the DFL booth as well.8/27/2005 03:29:00 PM|W|P|Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|Republican Minnesota has an interesting post on a conflict of interest for Mike Hatch.|W|P|112518211751046515|W|P|HATCH'S CONFLICT OF INTEREST|W|P|minnesotademocratsexposed@hotmail.com8/27/2005 09:28:00 AM|W|P|Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|

I slept in today and didn't realize Minnesota Democrats Exposed was in the Star Tribune.

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Latest political bickering focuses on who typed what, and where

A GOP legislator's official news release finds its way to her congressional campaign website. DFL websites are found to contain material from computers at public schools and a private law firm.

Do such revelations, and others like them, represent an outbreak of political lawlessness in a state noted for aboveboard campaigning? Or are they a series of minor slipups by busy volunteer activists who are being outed in Minnesota's hottest new partisan blood sport?

A flurry of allegations have been exchanged in recent weeks, generally via e-mail or web logs, accusing political activists in both major parties of preparing political materials on computers where they work.

It is illegal under Minnesota law to use public resources for partisan purposes, and political work on corporate computers could, if officially sanctioned, constitute an illegal contribution.

The accusations typically follow a search of the "properties" field of Microsoft Word documents that is supposed to show where they were created.

It took DFLer Jeffrey Arnold of St. Paul all of two minutes to get into the cyber-gotcha game last week after he learned of the case that launched the recent round of allegations.

Arnold fired up an advanced Google search and quickly hit on a Goodhue County Republican website with a page about how to donate money that originated at the Donaldson Co. of Minneapolis.

"OK, I found one," Arnold said. "I'm sure there's more. But haven't we got anything better to talk about? This all seems kind of silly."

Minnesota campaign law erects a solid wall between public and corporate resources on one hand and political activity on the other. Yet it remains murky whether any of the recently alleged infractions would rise to the level of even misdemeanor charges or civil penalties.

State campaign watchdogs, for example, don't count an activist's use of a home computer as an in-kind contribution to candidates or parties. And use of any computer to draft a document would likely fall well below the $20 value threshold for reporting political contributions, said Jeanne Olson, executive director of the state Campaign Finance and Public Disclosure Board.

In addition, there would be no wrongdoing at all if a public or corporate entity was paid whatever value is attached to the use of its computer for a political purpose.

Some campaign law experts suggest that any issues raised by the recent spate of revelations are between employees and employers, rather than a concern for the public interest at large.

But none of those provisos are to be found in the superheated political blogosphere that has spawned most of the finger-pointing.

The anonymous website Minnesota Democrats Exposed, which kicked off the current hostilities with a revelation that a DFL fundraising letter was created on a computer at the Minneapolis city attorney's office, has called for City Attorney Jay Heffern and his deputy, Peter Ginder, to be fired for allegedly covering up the matter.

Ginder said Thursday that an investigation continues on Lois Conroy, an assistant city attorney and chairwoman of the Minneapolis DFL. Conroy has admitted working on the letter after hours at her office.

False trails?

Minnesota Democrats Exposed, or MDE, as it styles itself, also has found that the computer trails that the partisan sleuths have dug up aren't always reliable evidence.

State Senate District 63 DFLers have "changed the document properties of documents posted on their website to falsely claim they were created by Minnesota Democrats Exposed," MDE says in a recent web posting.

David Weinlick, District 63 DFL chairman, said the switch was a joke. "We thought it was funny," he said. Weinlick, a student at the University of Minnesota, also said he isn't sure why some Word documents on the district web site originally showed the "author" as "U of M." He added: "Maybe I did it in a computer lab there."

MDE (www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com) also alleged that a 5th Congressional District DFL website contained a file created at the University of Minnesota, where 5th District DFL secretary Laura Sayles is coordinator of the Institute for Global Studies.

Contacted on Wednesday, Sayles declined to comment, adding: "I'm actually at work right now."

A similar problem confronted Republican blog contributor Jerry Plagge of Richfield. He had e-mailed a Star Tribune reporter questioning Conroy's explanation of her case, then asked that the message be sent back.

Why? He had sent it from his work computer at C.H. Robinson Worldwide Inc., a trucking and transportation company in Eden Prairie.

"I intended to send the message from my home or personal mailbox," he said. "Note the irony of me using work e-mail ... even if there is a big difference between a public position and a private company like mine."

'Perfectly legal'

Where one works does make a difference. If a corporation authorized the use of its assets for political purposes, it could incur a $40,000 fine and the loss of its right to do business in Minnesota. But that doesn't apply to all private enterprise.

For example, documents drafted at the Minneapolis law firm of Faegre & Benson that turned up on the state DFL Party website are "perfectly legal" because the firm is a partnership, not a corporation, said DFL spokesman Bill Amberg.

DFL state chair Brian Melendez is a partner at Faegre, but the documents may have come from Rick Nelson, another DFL activist at the firm, Amberg said. Regardless, he added, "there's nothing wrong with that. It's no different than working on a home computer."

Meanwhile, Sen. Michele Bachmann, R-Stillwater, was targeted by a blog devoted solely to her candidacy for Congress in the 6th District -- dumpbachmann.blogspot.com.

Blogster Eva Young found a news release produced last week by Bachmann's legislative office on her candidate website, with a tagline saying it was "prepared and paid for by Bachmann for Congress."

"It must be a mistake," Bachmann said. "I don't know what happened." She said she would order the disclaimer removed.

And the Donaldson Co.-Goodhue County GOP connection? Donaldson employee Chris Hauschildt of Red Wing is listed as the contact person on the party website. He said he hasn't altered the site in more than a year and doesn't remember doing any party work at his job.

"I might have done that," he eventually acknowledged. "But if I did, it was on my own time." Source: Star Tribune, August 27, 2005

|W|P|112516055897288180|W|P|MORE OF MDE IN THE NEWS|W|P|minnesotademocratsexposed@hotmail.com8/27/2005 02:30:00 PM|W|P|Blogger lloydletta|W|P|I found it interesting that they mentioned MDE's minor stories - but not the major one - which is the Hatch/Entenza rumor.8/27/2005 02:32:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Eightgun|W|P|You have won my admiration, MDE. You and I do not do the same kind of work in the blogosphere, but I recognize your perseverance and you seem to me to be a serious person. I find the MN left's rage at you both amusing and fascinating. How can post-Clinton Democrats be so upset at someone offering evidence of sleaze and low-level corruption in their party? Do they really believe their people are pure spirits? No one else does. If you really do have some very damning stuff, their reaction to its release should prove hilarious.8/27/2005 03:28:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Zack|W|P|I think this post provides a great clue in my ongoing quest to out MDE...

Anyone know anybody who slept in this morning???8/27/2005 03:37:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|Zach: Thanks for the laugh.8/27/2005 07:48:00 PM|W|P|Blogger ReaganBlows|W|P|I think Wigley slept in this morning...8/27/2005 09:33:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Sipidation|W|P|You were also refered to during Taxpayers League Live this morning. They were talking about the Entenza private eye thing. You were quoted as the source.8/26/2005 02:22:00 PM|W|P|Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|
The 2nd Congressional DFL provides instructions on their website on how to build a record that you are Conscientious Objector (CO). This is directly from their website:

Below is the basic information on how to compile a claim as a Conscientious Objector (CO). CCCO has a more detailed handbook called 'Choosing peace' which they sell. For more information check here.

  1. If you register, write that you are a CO on the card before sending it in. Photocopy the card and send it to yourself. FIle the sealed envelop in a secure location , leave it sealed.
  2. Write a statement of beliefs that explain why, how, when, where, etc that you became a CO. List anything that could have influenced your beliefs against war and killing, such as religion, films, books, events attended, protest, vigils, personal involment in peace issues.
  3. Find three (3) people who know you very well, ask that they write a letter on your behalf supporting your beliefs as a CO.
  4. Write a letter to CCCO explaining that you are a CO, Keep a copy for yourself, with the receipt of it being mailed. CCCO doesn't archieve these letters (we suggest you find a third party to do so>>>your church, a family member, close friend), however CCCO will send you a letter confirming having received your letter. That should also be kept in your CO file. You can send your CO file and letter to the Center on Conscience and War to be archieved.
  5. Compile all of these docuemtns, add in any supporting documentation such as pictures, and get them notarized.
  6. Put them in a safe place. If you get drafted, your material will be ready to go and your claim to the local draft board that you are a CO will be much stronger.

Build a paper trail and document everything that defines you as someone who will not go to war. If you attend war protest or peace vigils, have your picture taken as proof you were there, keep flyers, and annotate a calendar. Basically, you need to show you genuinely oppose the war and won't fight.

There is no draft, so why the instructions? Am I missing something?|W|P|112509133642782134|W|P|WANT TO BECOME A CONSCIENTIOUS OBJECTOR? CONTACT THE DFL|W|P|minnesotademocratsexposed@hotmail.com8/26/2005 03:23:00 PM|W|P|Blogger North Star Politics|W|P|Perhaps Pres. Bush's criminal mishandling of a war we didn't need is going to end up requiring one?8/26/2005 07:50:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Rambix|W|P|Liberals can be so simple-minded. Does it ever occur to them that most of us want peace, but sometimes war comes to us? Appeasement is suicide.8/26/2005 07:52:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Trinhmaster|W|P|The Armed Forces can only miss their recruiting goals for so many months before that becomes a posibility.8/26/2005 08:14:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Republican Minnesota|W|P|Does North Star Politics support the draft?8/26/2005 11:44:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Hank|W|P|Hello, blogging is just great. I blog surf a lot, and I just found your blog. I will visit again someday! You cand visit my site here Music and movies download site Join a download site for unlimited music and movies download8/27/2005 03:55:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Micah|W|P|I support the draft with no deferments. If this administration and congress wants to start wars, like the one in Iraq, that then get out of control, their kids should should have an equal chance to go and fight if a draft is needed.

There is nothing wrong with being a Conscientious Objector. This isn't draft dodging, this is both legitimate and necessary for some people that have a conscience.

Do you have a problem with COs? Why doesn't the MNGOP page have an enlistment link? Why don't you?8/26/2005 11:08:00 AM|W|P|Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|Mitch Berg has posted my interview. I want to thank him for the opportunity. |W|P|112507972387304296|W|P|UPDATE: INTERVIEW WITH MDE|W|P|minnesotademocratsexposed@hotmail.com8/26/2005 10:43:00 AM|W|P|Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|According to my sources at the Minnesota State Fair, the Minnesota DFL is selling "I am DFL" t-shirts that look very, very similar to my "I am M.D.E." t-shirts. I will post a picture of the DFL's "I am DFL" t-shirts later today. |W|P|112507853278694393|W|P|T-SHIRTS, GET YOUR T-SHIRTS!|W|P|minnesotademocratsexposed@hotmail.com8/26/2005 02:33:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Senate District 63 DFL|W|P|You are correct--they do look somewhat similar (they both are white with added color, and say "I am _____"). I'm not sure when you started selling yours, but I first saw the "I am the DFL" shirts last spring. Looking at your archives, I don't think you had even come into existence. It seem to require time travel for the DFL to copy your "I am" statement, but I don't think that either you or the DFL are the first to use that kind of rhetoric.8/26/2005 09:16:00 AM|W|P|Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|Since Minnesota Democrats Exposed is a blog dedicated to a truthful discussion on the activities, statements, and tactics of Minnesota Democrats, I have not dedicated many posts to rumors. According to my math, I have a total of 992 posts on Minnesota Democrats Exposed. Of the 992 posts, I would classify just four posts as rumors. 1. CHRIS COLEMAN FOR MAYOR? 2. IS DAYTON HAVING SECOND THOUGHTS ABOUT RUNNING FOR RE-ELECTION? 3. SOMETHING FROM THE RUMOR MILL 4. ENTENZA HIRES PRIVATE EYE TO INVESTIGATE HATCH 1. I was correct with my information on Chris Coleman running for mayor of St. Paul. Coleman filed campaign paperwork on December 14, 2005 and he listed William Finney as one of his campaign co-chairs. 2. I was correct with my information on Senator Mark Dayton having second thoughts about running for re-election. A week after my post, Dayton announced he would not run for re-election. 3. Regardless of what Wetterling has said, she has plenty of time to announce she is running for Congress. It is too early to call this rumor incorrect. The information on Rybak is open to debate. 4. This information was just posted in the last few days and I have received conflicting reports on its accuracy. Once again, it is too early to call this rumor incorrect. Due to my strict policy of using sources, my record of posting accurate rumors is very impressive. I will remind you that I can't call Mike Hatch, Matt Entenza, or Patty Wetterling to confirm or deny my information and they would certainly not contact me either. I will continue to take responsible risks when deciding to post rumors on Minnesota Democrats Exposed. |W|P|112507304892560488|W|P|MDE'S RUMOR RECORD|W|P|minnesotademocratsexposed@hotmail.com8/26/2005 10:45:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Swiftee|W|P|Hey MDE, want a good laugh?

Check this out.8/26/2005 10:45:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Swiftee|W|P|This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.8/26/2005 11:16:00 AM|W|P|Blogger DoctorJackShepard|W|P|This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.8/26/2005 11:17:00 AM|W|P|Blogger DoctorJackShepard|W|P|This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.8/26/2005 12:57:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Republican Minnesota|W|P|Wow, Dr. Jack Shepard, the living legend. When are you coming back to Minnesota?8/26/2005 01:06:00 PM|W|P|Blogger DFL Governor|W|P|He can't. He'll be arrested.

All I can say is wow. A .998 batting average (as you claim).

I will try to keep being a pain in the ass.8/26/2005 01:42:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Micah|W|P|Your 2/4 confirmed rumors isn't the greatest record. The way you stated the Wetterling rumor, you made it sound like it was going to happen any day, wasn't that more than a month ago? As an "insider" for the DFL Senate race, I have to say that your rumor sounds like wishful thinking for a lot of DFLers. Let's just say that if she actually had plans to do that, I'd know about it by now. I do wish she would do that, but realistically the next week or so would be the optimum time to make that announcement.

I'll give you another two weeks for the Hatch/Entenza thing to be proven correct. Again, if the person who told you about it is credible and wants the information out there, I can think of a dozen places where he or she can do it. Until that time, it is still 100% rumor.

I'll be the first to say that you do have good record of blowing open small scandals. Some of the stuff is wholly without merit though (like McCollum being involved because her condo in St. Paul is next to her CoS's). None of the stuff you have uncovered amounts to much of anything though. While it may seem like a big deal to you and your groupies, I honestly want to know what real damage you have done to the DFL?8/26/2005 02:30:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Swiftee|W|P|"I honestly want to know what real damage you have done to the DFL?"

Point well taken.

It's hard to score points by exposing lefty's for backstabbing, lying, money grubbing panderers when everyone already takes that for granted.

But it makes us laugh anyway.8/26/2005 06:02:00 PM|W|P|Blogger lloydletta|W|P|I'm curious whether Towle's source is from Hatch's office. That's my guess.

The Wetterling rumor was unfounded. It will be interesting to see what happens with the Hatch/Etenza rumor.

Would you be willing to do an email interview with me, MDE. I won't ask you puff questions like Mitch, but I'm sure you are up to the challenge.8/26/2005 06:27:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|lloydletta: I am up to the challenge. I certainly hope your interest for an interview is to learn more about my blogging rather than trying to expose me.

Please email me to discuss the details.

MDE8/26/2005 07:51:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Kevin from Minneapolis|W|P|wouldn't it be possible to identify him through IP addresses and the like? I think a clever hacker should be able to do it.8/26/2005 09:39:00 PM|W|P|Blogger lloydletta|W|P|There's this from Towle quoting the TOS from your domain proxy registry:

You understand and agree that DBP has the absolute right and power, in its sole discretion and without any liability to You whatsoever, to either: (i) close Your account (which means You then become the Registrant of the domain name registration); (ii) reveal Your name and personal information that You provided to DBP when required by law, in the good faith belief that such action is necessary in order to conform to the edicts of the law, or to comply with a legal process served upon DBP; (iii) resolve any and all third party claims, whether threatened or made, arising out of Your use of a domain name registered by DBP on Your behalf; or (iv) take any other action DBP deems necessary.....

EY: I don't buy your justifaction of your anonymity.8/26/2005 10:11:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|EY: I wasn't aware I needed to justify a right granted to me in the U.S. Constitution.

Mr. Towle's legal advice is almost as accurate as his spelling.

Is this the interview?8/26/2005 10:58:00 PM|W|P|Blogger lloydletta|W|P|Nope.... I've emailed you a question - and would like to interview you offline - then write it up.

If you worked for a company and signed a contract about non-disclosure of company secrets, but then started an anonymous blog and disclosed company secrets, the company would have every right to pierce the veil.

In this case, you agreed to the terms of the domain proxy service. It's a matter of interpretation whether you violated the TOS - but this is contract law.

The constitutional first amendment talks about government not violating freedom of speech.8/27/2005 06:52:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Swiftee|W|P|Looks like Towle found the moron he was looking for to do his legwork for him.

Eva Young...discussing a violation of "work rules"...well she is an expert!8/27/2005 08:35:00 AM|W|P|Blogger lloydletta|W|P|Give me a break, Swiftee.... I was comparing this to a contract with the Domain Proxy service - which Towle posted.

This isn't work rules - it's a contract.8/27/2005 04:44:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Micah|W|P|Anonymous speech, especially anonymous political speech, is completely protected, as long as it is an individual exercising their right to speech. MDE's registrar basically needs a court order to revel who he is, and frankly since the USSC has ruled about anonymous political speech already, I don't see a reason why any court could order that his identity be revealed. Besides that, what would stop MDE from using a fake name to register the domain?8/25/2005 04:49:00 PM|W|P|Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|
North Star Politics has decided there is a need for Minnesota Republicans Exposed. Will it work? Maybe. But remember the ill-fated Pawlenty Exposed? The even copied my old logo. We want to start with a tip of the hat to Minnesota Democrats Exposed, our Blogspot-mate. They do a fine job of poking a finger in the Democratic eye. We're inspired to do the same for Tim Pawlenty. Pawlenty Exposed hasn't been regulary updated since May. It seems the DFL got bored trying to expose Governor Pawlenty. If Minnesota Republicans Exposed does investigative work at the same level of DFL Governor and MN Publius, they will spend most of their time issuing retractions.|W|P|112501377032690162|W|P|MINNESOTA REPUBLICANS EXPOSED?|W|P|minnesotademocratsexposed@hotmail.com8/26/2005 08:01:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Shark.bait|W|P|At the very least, this should be rather entertaining!8/26/2005 09:12:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Trinhmaster|W|P|The only reason you don't release retractions is because when you make a mistake (Wetterling anyone?) you don't admit it.8/26/2005 09:34:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|Trinhmaster: I have made mistakes and I have admitted them.8/25/2005 10:32:00 AM|W|P|Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|Minnesota Democrats Exposed is, and always will be published anonymously. I will never confirm nor deny my true identity. Recently, a website called Checks and Balances posted informtion which claimed my identity had been exposed.
Minnesota Democrats Exposed (Exposed)
If you google the name Jerome Plagge you will find information on his activity in the blogsphere for Republican Senate District 63 (Richfield). There is also a link to a story from his blog about living a red life in a blue district on something called blogshares.com. As one delves a little deeper you see that in blogshares.com Minnesota Democrats Exposed is one of the most traded blog shares. So recent information that has come our way is the Jerome Plagge is the person behind Minnesota Democrats Exposed. It will be interesting to see if now the anonymous source behind MDE either confirms or denies this idea. We encourage the folks at MDE to contact us and tell it how it is. It seems Mr. Towle knows enough information to be dangerous, but not enough information to present a credible arugument. I find it irresponsible for bloggers like DFL Governor and MN Publius to present Mr. Towle's investigative work as fact. Minnesota Democrats Exposed may be published anonymously, but at least I am credible. Any blog that publishes Mr. Towle's information as fact without confirming it as fact is irresponsible. Is there an incentive for Checks and Balances to expose Minnesota Democrats Exposed? I say "yes!" Checks and Balances is old-school and I don't mean that in a good way. Years ago, Mr. Towle could publish his website when he wanted. The speed at which blogs publish information makes his website stale. He may post different information, but it's nothing special. I couldn't think as slow as Mr. Towle if I tried. By making a half-ass attempt to exposed my identity, Mr. Towle has destroyed what little credibility Checks and Balances had left. Blogs are a threat to the old-school political websites like Checks and Balances. It's time for websites like Checks and Balances, that require you to register and pay for access to all of their features, to move to the right lane and let the blogs pass them by. I would like to thank blogs like Kennedy v. The Machine, Bogus Gold, Kool Aid Report, and SD 63, for getting a laugh from Mr. Towle's investigative work. Finally, Minnesota Democrats Exposed is, and always will be published anonymously. I will never confirm nor deny my true identity. UPDATE: I forgot to add that Mr. Towle was at one point in his life, a delegate/alternate in the Minnesota DFL's party organization. I wonder if Mr. Towle has every disclosed that fact to his readers. I am a Republican and proud of it.

|W|P|112499481131116833|W|P|IRRESPONSIBLE BLOGGERS|W|P|minnesotademocratsexposed@hotmail.com8/25/2005 11:54:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Gary Matthew Miller|W|P|What is Sarah Janacek going to do? Her policy is against reporting on the work of anonymous bloggers and yet 3 times this week the anonymous MDE has been a newsmaker. Time to give bloggers who choose to be anonymous their due...8/25/2005 12:11:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Kevin from Minneapolis|W|P|It's okay, governor. Your secret is safe with me.8/25/2005 01:31:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Abrogans|W|P|MDE Said, "UPDATE: I forgot to add that Mr. Towle was at one point in his life, a delegate/alternate in the Minnesota DFL's party organization. I wonder if Mr. Towle has every disclosed that fact to his readers."

What's your point? Norm Coleman was elected as Mayor of St. Paul twice as a DFLer. Didn't he head up some DFL Campaigns?

Not that I am defending Shawn Towle. One thing that he does have over you though is the fact that he works both sides of the fence looking for the scoop on Democrats and Republican alike. He also reports things other than scandals.

As for your true identity, when someone needs to know they will be able to find out who you are. Just remember... you walk a fine line, and I believe that what you say could be an avenue for someone to expose who you are.8/25/2005 01:34:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Tracy|W|P|Anti-Strib is on Blogshares, one author lives in Minneapolis with many liberal neighbors and the most the telling clue is that the guy has actually had a Republican fund raiser at his house!

He must be the MDE guy!8/25/2005 03:43:00 PM|W|P|Blogger lloydletta|W|P|The question I have is whether your story on Hatch/Entenza is true. Has a non-anonymous blogger gotten confirmation from "house sources"?

After the Towles story came out, I thought it could have been retaliation against you for pissing off the DFL big guy attorneys with the Hatch/Entenza rumor.

But the next day you point to a DU thread on the topic as more evidence that the rumor is true. That doesn't build credibility.

All the things you say about Democrats aren't behaviors of democrats only - it's the way all too many political hacks behave - in both parties - and the behavior is appalling.8/25/2005 03:49:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Inside_source|W|P|As a person who is very familiar with the capitol, 2 things I can offer.

1) Mr. Towle has 0 credibility among Senate/House members. Without that credibility, he won't get diddly for a "scoop". He has to rely on newbie staff members who get off on creating news.

2) The Entenza/Hatch story is 100% true. Obviously Republicans are going to say this is true, they disklike. However, call your local DFL state repres. or senator. Ask them. They'll tell you the truth. Why would DFL'ers be lying about this?8/25/2005 04:23:00 PM|W|P|Blogger lloydletta|W|P|Inside Source - I'd be interested in hearing from some people from the capitol who could back this up. Send me tips at lloydletta@gmail.com - with subject line "tip - Hatch/Entenza"....8/25/2005 08:59:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Micah|W|P|"I find it irresponsible for bloggers like DFL Governor and MN Publius to present Mr. Towle's investigative work as fact."

But yet your "investigative work", like the Hatch/Entenza, (which you still have not proven to have any shred of proof to it besides your own word about a rumor) is quoted on many of the MNGOP circle-jerk blogs, including RepublicanMinnesota, as fact.8/26/2005 07:16:00 AM|W|P|Blogger ReaganBlows|W|P|I take blogs for what they are... gossip columns. MDE is the bland political version of CJ...8/26/2005 07:19:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Kevin from Minneapolis|W|P|No politician will casually admit this to anyone...at this point. Sorry inside source.8/26/2005 08:17:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Republican Minnesota|W|P|What a shot at MDE. No one, except Towle, is as bad as CJ.8/26/2005 10:48:00 PM|W|P|Blogger lloydletta|W|P|MDE is a gossip site. It's the same sort of thing I hear when I go to various events. I appreciate gossip - and sometimes it proves true, sometimes not.8/25/2005 10:02:00 AM|W|P|Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|Is this more confirmation of my post on Hatch and Entenza?|W|P|112498953355579254|W|P|UPDATE: THE BIGGEST MDE EXCLUSIVE: ENTENZA HIRES PRIVATE EYE TO INVESTIGATE HATCH #2|W|P|minnesotademocratsexposed@hotmail.com8/25/2005 10:39:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Abrogans|W|P|How is a link to a post on your site confirmation as to whether there is any truth to your original post?8/25/2005 12:32:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Kevin from Minneapolis|W|P|Yeah I'm not connecting these dots either.8/25/2005 05:43:00 PM|W|P|Blogger lloydletta|W|P|This isn't evidence of anything.8/25/2005 08:53:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Micah|W|P|spreading an unsubstantiated rumor and then having it come back to you and using that as confirmation is plain ridiculous.8/25/2005 09:29:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Micah|W|P|Why don't you have your good source in St. Paul call up the Star Tribune? Have him/her share exactly what they know with the proof or confirmation. If it is a staffer for Hatch or Entenza, that should be good enough for the media. I'm sure your journalistic standards are high enough to get some assurance that this isn't just a rumor that one of your GOP buddies passed on to you. I assume someone who wanted to blow them out of the water would not leak a potentially huge scandal to a second-rate partisan blogger (no offense MDE, there are just better places to go). The Strib would use an anonymous source if there is proof.

A rumor doesn't have to have any shred of truth to it for it to be effective. Just ask John McCain and the half-black baby he had out of wedlock. That rumor in push-polling to the GOP base sure helped Bush win in South Carolina. We know that MDE will basically do anything to stop DFLers, including posting mere hearsay and rumors that help his cause. Republican bloggers seem to believe anything that reenforces the GOP=good DFL=bad, at least on this site.8/26/2005 03:29:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Civic Minded|W|P|I heard this from someone who has insider information. Apparantly, there were two meetings, the first at the Lexington.8/26/2005 03:41:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|Civic Minded: Please email me to discuss.

MDE8/25/2005 09:48:00 AM|W|P|Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|I accepted an interview request from Mitch Berg. He will post the juicy details tomorrow on Shot in the Dark.|W|P|112498870847532966|W|P|INTERVIEW WITH MDE|W|P|minnesotademocratsexposed@hotmail.com8/25/2005 11:06:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Kevin from Minneapolis|W|P|MDE is...Tim Pawlenty! Sorry to out you governor, but thanks for buying me that cheeseburger at Wendy's that one time!8/25/2005 11:59:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Shark.bait|W|P|Why does this remind me of Ocean's Eleven

"Look, we all go way back. I owe
you from that thing with the guy
in the place, and I'll never
forget it."8/25/2005 09:06:00 AM|W|P|Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|
One would think that after getting caught editing stories, The DFL would change the top post on their blog.
|W|P|112498598043179696|W|P|FREE ADVICE TO THE DFL|W|P|minnesotademocratsexposed@hotmail.com8/25/2005 09:15:00 AM|W|P|Blogger DFL Governor|W|P|It's good to see that after having your identity exposed, you have crawled out from under your rock and returned to the blogsphere.8/25/2005 11:24:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Shark.bait|W|P|I'm kind of confused! Why would the DFL socialists take a joke from a blog
, and put it on the front page of their web site
as if it were a real story?8/25/2005 11:33:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Shark.bait|W|P|Sorry...my linkss don't work right for somw reason...8/25/2005 11:51:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|Because they are morons.8/25/2005 12:05:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Shark.bait|W|P|OOPS...my bad! I'm sorry I forgot!8/24/2005 10:44:00 AM|W|P|Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|Minnesota Democrats Exposed only uses information from verified sources. I do not post information provided by anonymous sources when the information cannot be independently verified. My strict policy prevent anonymous sources from providing me with false infomation. Verified sources who knowingly provide me false information will find their contact information posted on my blog. I have been sent information that I know to be false. Minnesota Democrats would love for me to post false information so they can discredit my blog. If members of the mainsteam media thought my blog was not credible, they would not use my blog as a source. Minnesota Democrats Exposed will always be a blog dedicated to a truthful discussion on the activities, statements, and tactics of Minnesota Democrats. Based on verified sources, I know this information to be accurate. Since Mike Hatch and Matt Entenza probably don't want the public to know about their spat, they may deny the story to the media and to people who call their offices. My message to Mike Hatch and Matt Entenza: Be very careful what you say to the media. Minnesota Democrats Exposed is on the case and I have received numerous emails confirming the accuracy of my post. It's a matter of when, NOT IF, I will post more information on this subject. |W|P|112490549903379046|W|P|SOURCES USED BY MDE|W|P|minnesotademocratsexposed@hotmail.com8/24/2005 05:31:00 PM|W|P|Blogger nk2134|W|P|Is this true? Is this you?
http://www.checksandbalances.com/Default.aspx?tabid=107&mid=722&ctl=Details&ItemID=1172

"Minnesota Democrats Exposed (Exposed)

"If you google the name Jerome Plagge you will find information on his activity in the blogsphere for Republican Senate District 63 (Richfield). There is also a link to a story from his blog about living a red life in a blue district on something called blogshares.com. As one delves a little deeper you see that in blogshares.com Minnesota Democrats Exposed is one of the most traded blog shares.

"So recent information that has come our way is the Jerome Plagge is the person behind Minnesota Democrats Exposed. It will be interesting to see if now the anonymous source behind MDE either confirms or denies this idea. We encourage the folks at MDE to contact us and tell it how it is."8/24/2005 05:34:00 PM|W|P|Blogger John Jordan.com|W|P|I just read that to and had to laugh. Whoever you are, MDE, the DFL has a huge bounty on your head. They want to know who you are, badly, and they're not going to stop until they find you.

I think it's so funny. They'd rather "expose" you than just clean up their act.8/24/2005 05:49:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|Bounty?8/24/2005 06:24:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Devon|W|P|Don't flatter yourself. The DFL has better things to do then put a bounty on a chickenshit hypocrit like you.8/24/2005 06:30:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|Chickenshit hypocrit[e]?

Watch your mouth.8/24/2005 08:59:00 PM|W|P|Blogger lloydletta|W|P|Good story on Entenza and Hatch - and Towles recent article suggests there is some truth to this story.

You've pissed off two lawyers who have resources.

Both parties do this sort of thing. It's not just democrats.

You were wrong about the Wetterling rumor - but I'd bet money you are right on this one.8/24/2005 10:31:00 PM|W|P|Blogger DFL Governor|W|P|About time you get found out.

My props to Towle on this one.8/25/2005 05:24:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Jerry Plagge, Jr.|W|P|OK... I have a wife and kids!

Check out my response to these allegations.

No offense MDE, but I don't want to be you! I like me, just as I am.8/25/2005 05:28:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Jerry Plagge, Jr.|W|P|Also, to all the DFL that are found roaming here.

I find it funny that you find it very easy to believe a complete rumor or guess by this Towle person at C&B and yet doubt and second guess the stuff the MDE posts.

Especially you DFL Guv... I respect you for confirming and posting something on the DFL Rift with Hatch and Matt E. on your blog, but how come you so easily swallow the rumor by Towle at C&B?8/25/2005 06:51:00 AM|W|P|Blogger DJ|W|P|Anyone who believes that story is ignoring all common logic with regard to the C&B website. Shawn Towle speculative stories are about as accurate saying Dean Johnson runs the Senate DFL caucus.8/25/2005 08:59:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Kevin from Minneapolis|W|P|Well said, DJ, well said indeed.8/25/2005 09:13:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Micah|W|P|Yeah, I'm sure the TOP priority for the DFL is finding out who MDE is. Nixon had Deep Throat, the DFL has MDE...

Fist of all, what have these huge scandals that MDE has "exposed" within the DFL led to? Maybe a newspaper mention followed by a collective shrug and "who cares?"8/24/2005 09:14:00 AM|W|P|Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|DFL Governor: "I have it on a source within the House Caucus that this is more than a rumor."|W|P|112490041499527250|W|P|UPDATE: THE BIGGEST MDE EXCLUSIVE: ENTENZA HIRES PRIVATE EYE TO INVESTIGATE HATCH|W|P|minnesotademocratsexposed@hotmail.com8/24/2005 01:19:00 PM|W|P|Blogger ReaganBlows|W|P|Interesting stuff... what's next Randy Kelly's mafia connections?8/24/2005 09:00:00 PM|W|P|Blogger lloydletta|W|P|I wouldn't put this past Entenza.8/24/2005 06:39:00 AM|W|P|Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|Minnesota Democrats Exposed has information that media outlets are working on this story. This will remain the top story on Minnesota Democrats Exposed for the rest of today. ## MDE has learned from excellent St. Paul sources a bombshell that reveals an enormous rift among two of the DFL's top officeholders. Within the past couple of months, House Minority Leader Matt Entenza hired a private investigative firm from Chicago to look into a fellow politician's background ... That politician -- Mike Hatch. Entenza hired the private eye to dredge up enough information to convince Hatch that he should stay out of the Governor's race and run for another term as Attorney General -- leaving the Governor's race open for Entenza. Entenza certainly has the funds to hire a private investigator -- his $600,000 contribution to DFL groups during the 2004 cycle was just a drop in the bucket for he and wife Lois Quam. Unfortunately for Entenza, Hatch's people caught onto Entenza's plan. They then laid a trap for Entenza -- they called him and posed as the private investigative firm and asked where he wanted them to fax the information they had found. When Entenza gave them a fax number, they revealed themselves and let Entenza know that Hatch was onto his scheme. Needless to say, Hatch was not happy with Entenza. Sources saw the two of them together twice since the rift was revealed -- once, seemingly friendly at the Lexington, and another time at a DFL event, where Hatch was giving Entenza a once-over off to the side. Hatch apparently told Entenza that he could run for Attorney General, but that Hatch will be supporting Lori Swanson. Word is that Hatch is already helping raise money for Swanon's AG bid. This episode raises a number of interesting questions. What did Entenza's private eye discover? Will Hatch and Entenza be able to repair the rift in case they are running for Governor and AG together? Did Hatch use "double expletives" to describe Entenza when he found out about this? This Hatch v. Entenza fight is certain to rock the DFL to its rotten core.|W|P|112489079093015111|W|P|THE BIGGEST MDE EXCLUSIVE: ENTENZA HIRES PRIVATE EYE TO INVESTIGATE HATCH|W|P|minnesotademocratsexposed@hotmail.com8/24/2005 07:04:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Shark.bait|W|P|I think that we need to create a boxing match similar to Celebrity Boxing! I want to see these two losers duke it out in the ring!8/24/2005 07:14:00 AM|W|P|Blogger DFL Governor|W|P|Wow. I tip my hat to you on this one MDE.8/24/2005 08:00:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Republican Minnesota|W|P|I don't know who'd fight more dirty, Entenza or Hatch. Any thoughts?8/24/2005 08:26:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Micah|W|P|I want MDE to put his reputation on the line for this. If this turns out to be yet another false rumor attempting to smear DFLers, I think he should give up his blog. This is a huge accusation to make.

I've already said that if this allegation is true, I'll vote for Tim Pawlenty for the rest of my life.

Standing behind your statements will, at least for me, give you some credibility.

How about it?8/24/2005 08:53:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Andy Smith|W|P|I just called Mr. Entenza's office. It's an old rumor, months old in fact.8/24/2005 09:07:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Republican Minnesota|W|P|This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.8/24/2005 09:08:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Republican Minnesota|W|P|There's truth to every rumor.

You need to keep digging.

As a young Bob Woodward was once told: "just follow the money."8/24/2005 09:31:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Andy Smith|W|P| Hatch apparently told Entenza that he could run for Attorney General, but that Hatch will be supporting Lori Swanson. Word is that Hatch is already helping raise money for Swanon's AG bid.

Lori Swanson dosen't even have a campaign comittee yet.

Where are you getting your information?8/24/2005 09:47:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Republican Minnesota|W|P|Did you not read the beginning?! It says something to the effect of "excellent St. Paul soures."8/24/2005 10:15:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Joe Mayo|W|P|If Entenza is dirty enough to do this, he's obviously dirty enough to tell his staff to lie about it. Quit accepting everything this man says as fact and open your eyes to the harsh reality of DFL inter-party politics.8/24/2005 09:03:00 PM|W|P|Blogger lloydletta|W|P|Keep digging. The fact that S Towes has tried to out you - as the person who also runs the Senate District 63 blog, suggests that you have this one correct.8/24/2005 09:04:00 PM|W|P|Blogger lloydletta|W|P|And by the way, I think you ought to have the balls to be public about who you are.8/25/2005 04:40:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Jerry Plagge, Jr.|W|P|SD63 and MDE are not one and the same. Look at the two blogs, do you see any similarity in the writein style of posts? Also, how would you explain my virtual non-existent posting on SD63 during July when I was enjoying life, while MDE was still digging and exposing?

Where did this "S Towes" make this accusation?8/25/2005 02:43:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Green tea|W|P|Oh Plueeeze..when someone stands behind a curtain and throws mud, everyone gets dirty....Only a wuss is afraid to stand in the sunshine and tell his storys..8/26/2005 10:51:00 PM|W|P|Blogger lloydletta|W|P|SD 63, it sounds like Towle posted your email to him.8/23/2005 07:29:00 PM|W|P|Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|What really is making them mad is that Minnesota Democrats Exposed is exposing Minnesota Democrats. |W|P|112485206910304839|W|P|WHAT REALLY MAKES THEM MAD...|W|P|minnesotademocratsexposed@hotmail.com8/24/2005 09:59:00 AM|W|P|Blogger North Star Politics|W|P|Not really. I think it's occasionally very good work you do. What really makes me mad is when you leave comments on my site like "Your mother."8/24/2005 10:09:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Republican Minnesota|W|P|Wow, with such thin skin, it's amazing you've lasted this long in the real world.8/23/2005 03:51:00 PM|W|P|Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|This post exposed the DFL's story editing. BTW: Bill, I do think you're stupid enough in a story where Kennedy is doing this to do the exact same thing.|W|P|112483765935123738|W|P|BUSTED: MDE EXPOSES STORY EDITING BY DFL #2|W|P|minnesotademocratsexposed@hotmail.com8/23/2005 04:00:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Swiftee|W|P|Hey MDE, the Star and Sickle is giving you some well earned pub..not!

"Pyle turned the matter over to AP's attorneys in Washington after an anonymous blogger, with the help of a Republican operative, brought the matter to the wire service's attention."

Care to comment?8/23/2005 05:01:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|This story is from the associated press. I am not sure why they didn't mention my blog.

The real issue is that the DFL got caught.8/23/2005 03:40:00 PM|W|P|Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|

Now it's Democrats pulling news story off Web site The state DFL Party pulled an Associated Press article with an altered headline from its Web site Tuesday, two weeks after Republican Rep. Rep. Mark Kennedy drew criticism for selectively editing news stories posted on his campaign site.

The DFL Party removed the story soon after the AP alerted a party official that it was looking into improper use of the wire service's material. A Star Tribune article was posted in its place.

Ironically, the story at issue deals with the Kennedy flap. Kennedy is running for the U.S. Senate next year and his campaign changed several stories from the AP and other news organizations to remove negative comments about him. The campaign has since changed its posting practices.

The DFL substituted the AP's headline about the Kennedy incident — "Kennedy campaign says it will provide links to full articles" - with a slanted one - "Mark Kennedy Misleading Minnesotans About His Record." The party also used bold and italic type to emphasize parts of the AP's Aug. 10 article.

Bill Amberg, a DFL spokesman, said the party took the AP story from the Star Tribune newspaper's Web site before adding the new headline and emphasis. The Star Tribune's rewrite of AP copy matched the story on the DFL site, with the exception of the headline.

"We're not guilty of the same offense'' as Kennedy, Amberg said. "Obviously, I'm not stupid enough in a story where Kennedy is doing this to do the exact same thing.''

Amberg added, "Why aren't the Republicans and Mark Kennedy working on health care, Iraq and education issues Minnesotans care about rather than surfing Web sites to try to get political revenge?''

Heidi Frederickson, a campaign spokeswoman for Kennedy, didn't immediately return a call seeking comment.

Dave Pyle, the AP's Minnesota bureau chief, said any use of AP stories by a nonsubscriber is unauthorized without the company's permission.

"Even if a political candidate or party were authorized to use AP content, AP would not permit alteration of the content by the site,'' Pyle said.

Pyle turned the matter over to AP's attorneys in Washington after an anonymous blogger, with the help of a Republican operative, brought the matter to the wire service's attention. Source: Associated Press, August 23, 2005

|W|P|112483697524001044|W|P|BUSTED: MDE EXPOSES STORY EDITING BY DFL|W|P|minnesotademocratsexposed@hotmail.com8/23/2005 05:24:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Micah|W|P|I'm sure the Kennedy camp will get back to the writers before close of business...8/23/2005 05:26:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Zack|W|P|"Pyle turned the matter over to AP's attorneys in Washington after an anonymous blogger, with the help of a Republican operative, brought the matter to the wire service's attention."

MDE - who is this republican operative and what is your affiliation with him/her?8/23/2005 02:24:00 PM|W|P|Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|MDE has learned from excellent St. Paul sources a bombshell that reveals an enormous rift among two of the DFL's top officeholders. Within the past couple of months, House Minority Leader Matt Entenza hired a private investigative firm from Chicago to look into a fellow politician's background ... That politician -- Mike Hatch. Entenza hired the private eye to dredge up enough information to convince Hatch that he should stay out of the Governor's race and run for another term as Attorney General -- leaving the Governor's race open for Entenza. Entenza certainly has the funds to hire a private investigator -- his $600,000 contribution to DFL groups during the 2004 cycle was just a drop in the bucket for he and wife Lois Quam. Unfortunately for Entenza, Hatch's people caught onto Entenza's plan. They then laid a trap for Entenza -- they called him and posed as the private investigative firm and asked where he wanted them to fax the information they had found. When Entenza gave them a fax number, they revealed themselves and let Entenza know that Hatch was onto his scheme. Needless to say, Hatch was not happy with Entenza. Sources saw the two of them together twice since the rift was revealed -- once, seemingly friendly at the Lexington, and another time at a DFL event, where Hatch was giving Entenza a once-over off to the side. Hatch apparently told Entenza that he could run for Attorney General, but that Hatch will be supporting Lori Swanson. Word is that Hatch is already helping raise money for Swanon's AG bid. This episode raises a number of interesting questions. What did Entenza's private eye discover? Will Hatch and Entenza be able to repair the rift in case they are running for Governor and AG together? Did Hatch use "double expletives" to describe Entenza when he found out about this? This Hatch v. Entenza fight is certain to rock the DFL to its rotten core. |W|P|112483292119182872|W|P|MDE EXCLUSIVE: ENTENZA HIRES PRIVATE EYE TO INVESTIGATE HATCH|W|P|minnesotademocratsexposed@hotmail.com8/23/2005 03:03:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Republican Minnesota|W|P|What a scoop! You are a great American!8/23/2005 03:12:00 PM|W|P|Blogger josh narins|W|P|Thank goodness there is no corruption in Republican circles!8/23/2005 03:49:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Joe Mayo|W|P|That sounds like an Arne Carlson tactic to me.8/23/2005 05:32:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Micah|W|P|I'm gonna call bullshit on this. MDE's "unimpeachable" source about Wetterling dropping out of the senate race was completely wrong! An anonymous blogger posting things from anonymous sources has NO CREDIBILITY! Just like when I talk about Norm Coleman sleeping with women that are not Laurie Coleman (except in that case it is true, I just don't have the hard evidence...).

The day that this story checks out and is completely true is the day that I will pledge to vote for Tim Pawlenty in every race he runs in the future (hehe, we know now it won't be a race for POTUS).

And that's not just a Tim Pawlenty pledge... I plan on keeping it!8/23/2005 05:39:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|Micah: Call Mike Hatch or Matt Entenza and ask them if it's true.8/23/2005 06:07:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Micah|W|P|MDE: I don't care for either guy really. Since you are the big newsmaker, I'll wait until it breaks on the Strib...

My pledge still stands.8/23/2005 06:15:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|I am not a big newsmaker. I am just a simple blogger trying to make a difference.8/23/2005 07:28:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Lucy N|W|P|I heard about this a couple of days ago ... wonder if the private eye uncovered anything decent.8/23/2005 12:26:00 AM|W|P|Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|
The DFL Party has removed the last link to their edited Mankato Free-Press story from their website. Thanks to Minnesota Democrats Exposed, it's gone, but not forgotten. |W|P|112478201239809673|W|P|STORY EDITING BY THE MINNESOTA DFL #4|W|P|minnesotademocratsexposed@hotmail.com8/22/2005 11:36:00 AM|W|P|Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|The DFL Party has removed the link to their edited Mankato Free-Press story from their website. The story was accessible on the "CURRENT NEWS" section of their website, but it has vanished. Minnesota Democrats Exposed will still link to a copy of the story until the DFL removes this last link from their server. |W|P|112473686771496350|W|P|STORY EDITING BY THE MINNESOTA DFL #3|W|P|minnesotademocratsexposed@hotmail.com8/22/2005 12:05:00 PM|W|P|Blogger DFL Governor|W|P|This just goes to show you're making stuff up.8/22/2005 01:14:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Shark.bait|W|P|Um...how EXACTLY do you think that MDE is making this stuff up? The edited contact is STILL on their server in the EXACT same format that I read it this morning!!! The ONLY thing that the DFL webmaster did was remove the EDITED version from the "Current News" section.

You should really consider READING hat is posted before you make any comments...or do you need to wait for someone to give you your opinion?8/22/2005 01:15:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Mel Slabaugh|W|P|De-perimeterization?
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-----------------------------------------------------8/22/2005 05:47:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Micah|W|P|You need to get some kind of spam filter for your comments.

I do want to ask, is it wrong for the DFL to edit these stories? If so, why not condemn Mark Kennedy at the same time? He did the same thing: deleting the links but leaving the content.8/23/2005 07:42:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Lucy N|W|P|Micah, you are an angry little man.8/22/2005 08:14:00 AM|W|P|Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|This will be the only time I publish my criticism of another conservative blogger. My friends at Kennedy v. The Machine were quick to point out they knew about the DFL Party's story editing more than a week ago. "KvM came into possession of the linked documents below from the Mankato Free-Press more than aweek ago but declined to run them due to our belief that the Kennedy website story was 'a fart in a whirlwind'." I find it interesting they didn't post the story because they thought it was "a fart in a whirlwind", yet they are very quick to point out they knew about it more than a week ago after I publish it. I don't want to think that Kennedy v. The Machine's quick critic of my post has more to do with their own concern about not posting the information. If Kennedy v. The Machine knew about the DFL's editing a week ago, then they should have posted it a week ago. We need to combat the DFL with the same tactics they use against us. If the DFL is joining in the criticism of Kennedy's campaign, then we should fight back with examples of them doing the same thing. I will remind Kennedy v. The Machine that it was the DSCC who helped in the attack of Congressman Kennedy. This is the same DSCC who will spend millions of dollars trying to defeat Kennedy. In my opinion, "the Machine" is not just the DFL, but anyone who carries water for the Democrats. I am also concerned about the soft stance taken by Kennedy v. The Machine. "For the record, KvM does not join the call for the DFL to use the unedited version. They, like the Kennedy campaign, should use press accounts to portray themselves as favorably as possible in congruence with 'fair use'. We would simply ask our DFL friends to put down the stones." Kennedy v. The Machine seems more critcal of my decision to post examples of the DFL editing stories, than they are about the DFL editing stories. If the press is going to report that Congressman Mark Kennedy once spit on a sidewalk, you can gaurantee that Minnesota Democrats Exposed will try and find 10 Democrats that did the same thing. I agree that it's frustrating the material the press decides sometimes is a story. But I don't think we do ourselves, the issues, or the candidates we support any favors by ignoring opportunites to balance media stories with examples of Democrats doing the exact same thing because we think their stories are a "fart in a windwhind." Fighting the Democrats is a daily struggle and if some bloggers are concerned about being petty or contributing to stupid stories, then send your material to Minnesota Democrats Exposed. I will attack a Democrat on Christmas and not think twice about it. Merry Christmas, MDE |W|P|112472629902609596|W|P|A MESSAGE FROM MDE TO KENNEDY v. THE MACHINE|W|P|minnesotademocratsexposed@hotmail.com8/22/2005 09:18:00 AM|W|P|Blogger ReaganBlows|W|P|Attacking people on Christmas now? Geez that seems as bad as Newt Gingrich divorcing his wife while she was in the hospital...8/22/2005 09:30:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Republican Minnesota|W|P|Be that as it may, it's no where near as close as Wellstone breaking his two-term pledge.8/22/2005 01:07:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Shark.bait|W|P|"I will attack a Democrat on Christmas and not think twice about it."

God bless you!!!8/22/2005 05:38:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Micah|W|P|Republican Minnesota: So where is your condemnation of Gil Gutknecht? The man made a term limit pledge which he clearly broke. Oh wait, it is a huge double standard for you. Also, I have to ask, in the end, did Wellstone ever actually break his pledge? Nope, he only served two terms.

Gingrich served his wife with divorce papers while she was in the hospital, on Christmas Eve (I think it was). Now I ask you, which is more important: a campaign plege or a wedding vow? I think the woman had cancer!

Term limit pledges are stupid, just like "no new tax" pledges. Politicians shouldn't make them. To say that Wellstone seeking a third term is worse than Gingrich doing that, then I question both your moral judgement and character.8/23/2005 05:16:00 AM|W|P|Blogger lloydletta|W|P|Again, MDE why not identify yourself and who you work for?

From what I understand Reporters at the strib and elsewhere are getting tired of anonymous attack blogs.8/23/2005 06:16:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|lloydletta: If reporters are getting tired of anonymous attack blogs then they can choose to not read them.

I don't have to identify myself. Where I work has nothing to do with my blog.8/23/2005 01:21:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Swiftee|W|P|"From what I understand Reporters at the strib and elsewhere are getting tired of anonymous attack blogs."

Hey Eva, why not put out one of your patented "virtual press releases"?

ROTFLMAO!

Eva knows as much about the inner workings at the Strib as she does the GOP.

She's a legend in her own mind!8/23/2005 01:23:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Swiftee|W|P|"Also, I have to ask, in the end, did Wellstone ever actually break his pledge? Nope, he only served two terms."

This guy is kidding...right?8/22/2005 07:02:00 AM|W|P|Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|
Has this story from the Associated Press on the DFL Party's website been edited?
I just sent this email to the Associated Press:
Ms. Lohn:
Can you confirm that the story posted on the DFL Party's website is not an edited story? Was the headline actually "Mark Kennedy Misleading Minnesotans About His Record"? If not, I think you have a follow-up story on how the DFL is editing stories. Please visit my blog to read about more about the DFL's story editing. MDE The DFL would be morons to post an edited story about Congressman Mark Kennedy's campaign editing stories.
|W|P|112471933412345496|W|P|STORY EDITING BY THE MINNESOTA DFL #2|W|P|minnesotademocratsexposed@hotmail.com8/22/2005 07:35:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Shark.bait|W|P|"The DFL would be morons to post an edited story about Congressman Mark Kennedy's campaign editing stories."

Would be? You mean that they aren't already?8/22/2005 08:05:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Jerry Plagge, Jr.|W|P|Google results of that exact headline generates ONE hit... guess the website?

Try it here!8/21/2005 09:21:00 PM|W|P|Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|
The section of this newspaper article inside the red box was excluded from the DFL's website version of this story.
The section of this newspaper article inside the red box was excluded from the DFL's website version of this story. A few weeks ago, the media focused on the text of newspaper articles on Congressman Kennedy's U.S. Senate campaign website. The Minnesota DFL, wanting to extend the life of this story, links to one of the stories under the headline "Mark Kennedy Misleading Minnesotans About His Record."
But the Minnesota DFL is guilty of the same charge.
Above are scans of a two-page article on the Nicollet County DFL opening a permanent office in downtown Mankato. In the article, Richard Tostenson of the Nicollet County Republicans is highly critical of the Nicollet County DFL's decision to open a permanent office. Tostenson called it "a great waste of money." But Tostenson's criticism has been removed from the story that appears on the DFL's website.
Click on the picture above to see DFL version of the story free of Tostenson's criticism.
The DFL does not link to the Mankato Free-Press' story, nor do they labled it as "excerpts". In fact, the DFL removes the word "however" from the sentence after Tostenson's comments so they would not be reference in their edited story. I call on the Minnesota DFL to post the correct version of the article as it appeared in the Mankato Free-Press.
|W|P|112468433279061348|W|P|STORY EDITING BY THE MINNESOTA DFL|W|P|minnesotademocratsexposed@hotmail.com8/22/2005 09:14:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Kevin from Minneapolis|W|P|NICE WORK!! Exactly what blogs are best used for!8/23/2005 03:06:00 PM|W|P|Blogger josh narins|W|P|I guess I'm confused.

I see edited versions of AP and Reuter's news stories all over the place.

Paragraphs are let out, or kept in, as space permits.

Bah.8/21/2005 05:23:00 PM|W|P|Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|
The SD 63 DFL has changed the document properties of documents posted on their website to falsely claim they were created by Minnesota Democrats Exposed.
This is a screen capture of the document properties of a document from the SD 63 DFL that was created with a copy of Microsoft Word registered to University of Minnesota.
I sent this email to the SD 63 DFL.

Dear SD 63 DFL: After my success in exposing a Minneapolis city worker using a city computer to prepare a fundraising letter for the Minneapolis DFL Party, I decided to check other DFL Party websites for similar problems. I found documents prepared using copies of Microsoft Word registered to the Minneapolis Public Schools, the University of Minnesota and the law firm of Faegre & Benson. Some of the documents prepared with a copy of Microsoft Word registered to the University of Minnesota were found on your website. After I exposed this potentially illegal use of taxpayer resources for partisan campaign purposes, someone or something with access to your website altered the document properties to show "Minnesota Democrats Exposed" as the author. Due to the media coverage my blog received this week, I can appreciate your committee’s interest in covering your tracks to hide your potentially illegal use of taxpayer resources. I will be sharing your committee's computer work with the media and I appreciate the free advertising. My only request is that you use spell-check if you plan on listing me as the author of your committee's organizational documents. MDE
|W|P|112467022441487058|W|P|COMPUTER GAMES IN SD 63|W|P|minnesotademocratsexposed@hotmail.com8/21/2005 11:55:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Senate District 63 DFL|W|P|Somehow, you failed to appreciate the humorous intent behind the re-authoring. If indeed there were concern about 'covering tracks' it certainly wouldn't make sense to credit your blog. We simply thought that others might appreciate our humorous play.
As of this time, we have yet to be made aware of any actual allegations of illegal use of taxpayer resources by the Senate District 63 DFL. We don't believe that any such use has occurred.
We certainly wish that everyone took politics as seriously as you do--as we believe that the best politics emerge out of a robust debate of ideas--but we are saddened to think that it has left you unable to enjoy a joke.8/22/2005 05:58:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|You must have missed my humor.8/22/2005 06:41:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Jerry Plagge, Jr.|W|P|Thanks MDE, now my counterparts in SD63 are going to be really ticked at me too!!!

Why did you do this? I'm never "talking" to you or reading you lousy blog again!8/22/2005 07:07:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.8/22/2005 07:08:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|SD 63: I assume you are joking.8/22/2005 08:42:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Senate District 63 DFL|W|P|Let's assume that everyone is joking...8/23/2005 01:33:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Swiftee|W|P|What IS funny here is how evidence of misuse of public resources, cut and paste politics and cover-up suddenly become "a joke" when it's lefty's getting caught at it.

This is really good work MDE, I can almost actually see them squirming in the fever swamp.8/19/2005 06:46:00 PM|W|P|Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|
This film about George McGoverns' failed presidential campaign of 1972 opens in Minneapolis on October 21 at the University Film Society. I hear a movie about Michael Dukakis' '88 campaign is in the works. |W|P|112450236248340478|W|P|MCGOVERN THE MOVIE|W|P|minnesotademocratsexposed@hotmail.com8/19/2005 11:02:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Trinhmaster|W|P|And Barry Goldwater.8/20/2005 08:58:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Republican Minnesota|W|P|I've got a paper mache tank we can use for the Dukakis movie.8/19/2005 12:04:00 PM|W|P|Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|
This document from the SD 43 DFL was prepared with a copy of Microsoft Word registered to Minneapolis Public Schools.
This document from the DFL State Party was created with a copy of Microsoft Word registered to Faegre & Benson.
This document from the DFL State Party was created with a copy of Microsoft Word registered to Faegre & Benson.
This document from the SD 61 DFL was created with a copy of Microsoft Word registered to MAP for Nonprofits.
This document from the SD 63 DFL was created with a copy of Microsoft Word registered to University of Minnesota.
This document from the SD 63 DFL was created with a copy of Microsoft Word registered to University of Minnesota.
This document from the SD 63 DFL was created with a copy of Microsoft Word registered to University of Minnesota.
This document from the SD 63 DFL was created with a copy of Microsoft Word registered to University of Minnesota.
This document from the 5th Congressional District DFL was created with a copy of Microsoft Word registered to University of Minnesota.
This document from the 5th Congressional District DFL was created with a copy of Microsoft Word registered to University of Minnesota.
This document from the 5th Congressional District DFL was created with a copy of Microsoft Word registered to University of Minnesota.
After my success in exposing a Minneapolis city worker using a city computer to prepare a fundraising letter for the Minneapolis DFL Party I decided to check other DFL Party websites for similar problems. I found documents prepared using copies of Microsoft Word registered to the Minneapolis Public Schools, the University of Minnesota and the law firm of Faegre & Benson.
THIS IS ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS!
UPDATE: One of the documents was created by MAP for Non Profits. MAPs is a 501 (c) (3) and the use of their resources for partisan campaign purposes is a violation of the IRS law that governs 501 (c) (3)s. UPDATE #2: One of the documents from the 5th Congressional District DFL was created with a copy of Microsoft Word registered to the University of Minnesota. The secretary of the 5th Congressional District DFL is Laura Sayles, who works for the University of Minnesota.
|W|P|112447828518801167|W|P|MDE EXCLUSIVE: DOES ANYONE IN THE DFL OWN MICROSOFT WORD?|W|P|minnesotademocratsexposed@hotmail.com8/19/2005 12:45:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Jerry Plagge, Jr.|W|P|Classic! I have visions of scrambling DFL workers modifying documents.8/19/2005 12:50:00 PM|W|P|Blogger The Lady Logician|W|P|MDE - I agree that certain public entities (City of Minneapolis, Minneapolis Public Schools and the UM) should not be engaging in political activity using "public" assets, however a private law firm is a different story. UNLESS there is a employment policy in place that prohibits employees from using company property for anything other than company business. That might be something for you to look into.8/19/2005 01:27:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Trillin|W|P|This doesn't explain them all, but it is possible that the DFL hired the law firm to write those documents. They seemed to be somewhat of a legal nature and it wouldn't be out of the question for them to do that I would think.

As for the rest, I got nothing..8/19/2005 02:23:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Republican Minnesota|W|P|Keep digging MDE. Maybe you'll find some DFLers stealing wi-fo from their neighbors.8/19/2005 02:23:00 PM|W|P|Blogger DFL Governor|W|P|Did you get board last night?8/19/2005 02:23:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Shark.bait|W|P|I would REALLY like to see some media outlet take this and run with it!

Good investigating!!!8/19/2005 02:25:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|No. Nor did I get "bored" you dummy.8/19/2005 04:31:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Micah|W|P|Not that I expect you to let down your attack dogs for a second, but consider this:

When I purchase and install software and it asks me my name and company, guess what I put in there? The company that I work for! I own the software, but anyone who would look at documents that I create would see the name of my employer as well, even though it was created on my home computer on my own time.

It would be incredibly hard to prove that the documents were created on public computers and done "on the clock" by government employees. But I guess here on Minnesota Democrats Attacked, there is no burden of proof needed to make accusations without the whole story.8/19/2005 04:51:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|Micah: On a documents properties, it does show the time and date the document was access.

I don't understand why someone would register a copy of Microsoft Word to their company if they purchased it with their own money and it was for their own use?8/19/2005 09:50:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Inside_source|W|P|Never underestimate the power of the far left to come up with ANY excuse for ANY wrongdoing.

If only we could Colleen Rowley to investigate the case.....8/19/2005 10:47:00 PM|W|P|Blogger lloydletta|W|P|Well where do you work, MDE - and are you blogging from work? Or are you doing this on your own time?8/21/2005 08:53:00 PM|W|P|Blogger ReaganBlows|W|P|Working for the Geek Squad now?8/23/2005 03:20:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Swiftee|W|P|"Well where do you work, MDE - and are you blogging from work? Or are you doing this on your own time?"

Pfft..talk about solid brass balls.

Lloydletta, aka: Eva Young, is all bent out of shape over this because she got busted spending a goodly portion of the time she gets paid by the University of Minnesota to use their equipment to manage a database, instead was posting hundreds of comments each day on dozens of websites, as well as operating four or five moonbat corners of hell herself.

It's nice to see (by her timestamps)that she's learned her lesson..maybe she should pass along some good advice to her moonbat collegues, or at the very least keep a lower profile in this issue..

..moonbats...you just can't make bizarre stuff up fast enough to stay ahead of the "reality based" community can ya?8/23/2005 03:22:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Swiftee|W|P|BTW, "blowsreagan"...love the name!8/19/2005 09:29:00 AM|W|P|Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|The looming NWA strike highlights the tactics of union thugs. "All you can do is make their lives a miserable hell the rest of their lives," "scabs, scabs, scabs" |W|P|112446948828945748|W|P|THE TACTICS OF UNION THUGS|W|P|minnesotademocratsexposed@hotmail.com8/19/2005 11:19:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Shark.bait|W|P|Two quick questions about that quote...

1) What does this teach our Children?
2) Doesn't this sound a little bit like terrorism?

My biggest shock in the article is the fact that the union does not condone violence, but has bail money set aside for those union members who get arrested.8/21/2005 08:50:00 PM|W|P|Blogger ReaganBlows|W|P|What does saying we need concessions so we can keep giving the execs sweet bonuses say about values?8/19/2005 08:22:00 AM|W|P|Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|Minnesota Democrats Exposed has no intention of allowing the investigation of Lois Conroy to be swept under the rug. MDE will have a new post at least once a day on Lois Conroy to keep the pressure on the Minneapolis city attorney Jay M. Heffern. |W|P|112446589464762483|W|P|CONROY WATCH|W|P|minnesotademocratsexposed@hotmail.com8/19/2005 07:48:00 AM|W|P|Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|
According to my scientific poll results, the DFL should have canceled their illegal fundraiser.
|W|P|112446293379988261|W|P|FINAL POLL RESULTS|W|P|minnesotademocratsexposed@hotmail.com8/19/2005 08:18:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Republican Minnesota|W|P|I think you are being too easy on Conroy. She needs to resign in disgrace for what she did. Anyone involved in the cover up should be tarred and feathered.8/19/2005 08:38:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Trinhmaster|W|P|This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.8/19/2005 08:43:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Trinhmaster|W|P|Kind of like Plamegate than right?8/18/2005 02:10:00 PM|W|P|Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|Please click here to view the ruling of Judge Lloyd Zimmerman for the Mike Hatch vs. Medica trial. Every Minnesotan should read this ruling to learn about Hatch and how he conducts himself. Hatch needs to explain why he wasted the taxpayers money on such a frivolous lawsuit. Hatch's campaign for governor was dealt a major set-back today. |W|P|112440009968076195|W|P|ANALYSIS OF HATCH'S LEGAL LOSS #2|W|P|minnesotademocratsexposed@hotmail.com8/18/2005 06:56:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Civic Minded|W|P|I think that the Mr. Attorney General has ended his own political career with this endeavor.8/18/2005 08:00:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Zack|W|P|I think thats wishful thinking on your part.8/18/2005 09:02:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Andy Smith|W|P|I agree with MDE and Civic,

I wonder if he will even run.8/18/2005 09:29:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Seduction|W|P|Floods kill at least 16, leave 18 missing in China
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Thanks for all your effort on this great blog!

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Come and check it out if you get time. Product for girls too! :-)8/18/2005 10:23:00 PM|W|P|Blogger ReaganBlows|W|P|Hatch is a fighter and can be a mean SOB, but right now he's in the lead for the endorsement. I don't think there is any way he is not going to run, it's now or never for him.8/19/2005 05:57:00 AM|W|P|Blogger John Jordan.com|W|P|Unfortunately the GP (general public) doesn't pay attention to stuff like this. This ruling is "inside baseball" to most people, not on their daily radar.

By the time next years campaign season comes up there will have been a completely new and hopefully completed legislative session and this episode will be a 60's rerun in the voters minds.

As much as I'd like Mike Hatch's political ambitions to cease with this ruling, I think it's wishful thinking.8/19/2005 11:24:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Trinhmaster|W|P|I agree, though one can hope...8/18/2005 02:03:00 PM|W|P|Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|Republican Minnesota is doing a great job of analyzing Hatch's big legal loss today. Check back here and at Republican Minnesota for updates. |W|P|112439924932506682|W|P|ANALYSIS OF HATCH'S LEGAL LOSS|W|P|minnesotademocratsexposed@hotmail.com8/18/2005 08:25:00 AM|W|P|Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|I have received information about a cover-up inside Minneapolis city hall. Please send an email to Minneapolis city attorney Jay Heffern and assistant city attorney Burt Osborne and tell them to investigate Minneapolis DFL Party Chair Lois Conroy. Your help in exposing Minnesota Democrats is greatly appreciated.|W|P|112437945698982351|W|P|MDE NEEDS YOU!|W|P|minnesotademocratsexposed@hotmail.com8/18/2005 11:11:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Shark.bait|W|P|I sent a quick email, and got the following reply:

Thanks for your inquiry Mr. XXXXX. The City Attorney has not asked me to investigate any of the allegations against Ms. Conroy, so I of course have had no occasion to refuse such a request. In my experience, Mr. Heffern always avoids any conflict of interest that might call into question the integrity of any inquiry. If Ms. Conroy’s actions are going to be investigated, that investigation will not be handled by anybody in this office. I’m not sure where you obtained your information but it isn’t accurate.



Burt Osborne

Assistant City Attorney



So…the cover up is still going on hot and heavy, or the information posted by Ashley's Truth is incorrect.

With the speed in which reply came back, I am leaning toward the former than the later!8/18/2005 12:09:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Trillin|W|P|While I do not pretend to know the inner workings of Minneapolis city hall, two quick things.

One, usually outside investigators are called in to do this.

Second, until you have a second source in your e-mail can we call this an "alleged cover-up" and give folks the benefit of the doubt before accusing them of something this serious?

It is entirely possible your information is incorrect at this time.

That being said, if this happened in St Paul where i live, I would be all for an independent investigation of the person. So I am all for Minneapolis doing it as well.

Lets just not get too caught up in this and call it a cover-up until there is more proof then an e-mail.8/18/2005 12:15:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Shark.bait|W|P|Trillin, your points are well taken...and you are right...we are all operating on hearsay here and so you are correct that judgment should be held until further information is presented.

Just the same, I received another email:

Mr. XXXXXX,

Let me clarify two points in your email. First, Mr. Osborne is the City's Ethics Officer appointed pursuant to the City's ethics ordinance. His duties and responsibilities regarding alleged violations of the City's ethics code are detailed in that ordinance. Section 15.230 (1)(a) of that ordinance requires the Ethics Officer to refer allegations of improper conduct involving non-appointed employees to the alleged violator's supervisor or to the department head. Second, the investigation of this matter will be conducted by an individual who is not a city employee or member of my staff.

Very truly yours,

Jay M. Heffern8/18/2005 12:20:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Trillin|W|P|If indeed MDE has broken a serious story here and it looks like he has (and I take no personal joy in that) it is in his best interest to take it slow and try and verify stuff at this point.

We are talking about hardworking city employees, who deserve to be treated with respect until we have more then verified facts that there is a cover-up of some sort.

Allegations like this are very very serious and I just don;t want to see a witch hunt of accusations against people who have nothing to do with it becuase an over-zelious reader heard someone tell someone else that they thought someone said something.

If she did do it, and if they are refusing to investigate, then thereis a serious problem, one which I would not stand for, Democrat or Republican.8/18/2005 12:59:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Shark.bait|W|P|Trillin, again, I agree with you, except for one point...

There is no question of IF she did it...

According to the Star Tribune article from August 17, 2005, "The chairwoman of the Minneapolis DFL Party acknowledged Tuesday that she briefly worked on an invitation for a party fundraiser on a city computer at her job as an assistant Minneapolis city attorney.

Lois Regnier Conroy said she opened a disc containing an old fundraising letter one evening at her office before e-mailing it to her home computer, which she used to edit and send out the new letter..."

http://www.startribune.com/stories/587/5564007.html

While the argument might be made that "everyone does it" does not make it right and she should be reprimanded accordingly...whether that's a letter in her file or a fine, I don't care, I just want the powers that be to at lease acknowledge the issue.8/18/2005 01:45:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|The plot is certainly thickening.8/18/2005 03:18:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Republican Minnesota|W|P|MDE -
If they gave a Pulitzer for investigative blogging, you would be a worthy recipient.8/18/2005 03:29:00 PM|W|P|Blogger lloydletta|W|P|Give me a break.... Let's do some freedom of information act requests about what is going on at the state capitol. There's plenty of this sort of thing which goes on on both sides of the aisle.

It's really nice that you lob accusations about people anonymously.8/18/2005 03:31:00 PM|W|P|Blogger lloydletta|W|P|Personnel issues aren't a matter of public record. If you got evidence of a Republican doing something like this would you expose it? Clearly not.8/18/2005 03:49:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|"It's really nice that you lob accusations about people anonymously."

This is America, not Russia.

"If you got evidence of a Republican doing something like this would you expose it? Clearly not."

You must be confused with the purpose of my blog. It's called Minnesota Democrats Exposed. I expose Democrats, not Republicans. Feel free to start Minnesota Republicans Exposed.8/19/2005 04:18:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Ashley's Truth|W|P|Minnesota Democratic Exposer,
Please do not publish this message on the website. I have inside information from the minneapolis city attorney office. You are on to something big at the city attorney office. Stay on the Conroy story. Start asking lots of questions regarding the investigation of Conroy's illegal conduct.8/19/2005 06:14:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Shark.bait|W|P|This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.8/19/2005 06:16:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Shark.bait|W|P|If you don't want something posted, then you shouldn't hit the post button. If you want to send a private message, can I suggest using his/her email?

minnesotademocratsexposed@hotmail.com8/19/2005 07:59:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Micah|W|P|Ashley's Truth is right. I too can confirm that this goes all the way to the top! Watergate was nothing compared to this coverup!

Follow the money...8/19/2005 08:04:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|Micah gets the gold star of the day for his "All the President's Men"/Mark W. Felt/Watergate reference.8/19/2005 11:02:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Micah|W|P|I actually think I remember hearing about a month ago that Felt never said "follow the money" and Woodward never wrote it in his book. I believe it was a line written for the film, but I could be mistaken.8/18/2005 08:10:00 AM|W|P|Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|Judge finds for Medica in control case In a victory for non-profits, a Hennepin County judge has ruled Attorney General Mike Hatch overstepped his bounds and wrongly accused Medica's board of wrongdoing. The ruling stems from Hatch's attempt to install a new Medica board of directors for the second time in four years. In a sharply worded opinion opinion, Judge Lloyd Zimmerman said the battle for control over Medica is over. He said the expensive, time-consuming suit against Medica and its board was only supported by overheated rhetoric and accusations of self-dealing. He said Hatch wrongly accused the new Medica's board of directors of wrongdoing. Zimmerman said Hatch's claims obscured the fact that - when the attorney general intervened at Medica in 2001 - it was government at its best protecting the public from waste and corruption. But the judge also said the results show the new board took a company from a national scandal four years ago to the number one non-profit health plan in the country. http://news.minnesota.publicradio.org/headlines/#4|W|P|112437803327564375|W|P|BREAKING NEWS: HATCH LOSES MEDICA LAWSUIT|W|P|minnesotademocratsexposed@hotmail.com8/18/2005 07:40:00 AM|W|P|Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|I just received this tip: Be on the alert. Per Jay Heffern, Mpls. City Attorney, the Ethics Officer, Burt Osburn, Assistant City Attorney, has been given the assignment of investigating Conroy's illegal conduct. Why would Jay Heffern ask an Assist. City Attorney to investigate another Assist. City Attorney. Rather stupid isn't it. Guess What? There is a cover up currently in progress at the City Attorney's Office. Osborn, is refusing to investigate Conroy's illegal behavoir. I hope the MDE keeps on top of this matter. [Trust me, I will.] Please don't let this matter slip by your hands. P.S. Conroy knew exactly what she was doing and she lied to the newspaper. Conroy's reputation in the City Attorney's Office is that she is not a very credible person. Conroy, along with Jay Heffern and Peter Ginder should be fired. [Click here to learn more.]|W|P|112437626185145931|W|P|MDE EXCLUSIVE: COVER-UP IN THE CITY OF LAKES?|W|P|minnesotademocratsexposed@hotmail.com8/18/2005 06:53:00 AM|W|P|Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|Check back at 10:00 a.m. for a new post detailing more problems for the Minneapolis DFL. |W|P|112437372696613292|W|P|MDE EXCLUSIVE: MORE PROBLEMS FOR THE MINNEAPOLIS DFL|W|P|minnesotademocratsexposed@hotmail.com8/17/2005 06:13:00 PM|W|P|Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|This is a very revealing article about anti-war extremist Cindy Sheehan.|W|P|112432833985655187|W|P|WHO IS CINDY SHEEHAN?|W|P|minnesotademocratsexposed@hotmail.com8/17/2005 12:54:00 PM|W|P|Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|The silver-tongued devil known as Republican Minnesota has a new angle to Coleen Rowley's visit to Crawford.|W|P|112430880043908691|W|P|THE WRATH OF KQRS|W|P|minnesotademocratsexposed@hotmail.com8/17/2005 12:34:00 PM|W|P|Minnesota Democrats Exposed|W|P|SD 63's blog has anaylized Lois Conroy's excuse for using a city of Minneapolis computer for a DFL Party fundraising letter. The phrase "liar, liar, pants on fire" comes to mind. My compliments to SD 63 for providing a technical explanation on document properties. I will make sure the investigating authorities see their post. |W|P|112430774831483148|W|P|UPDATE: MDE IN THE NEWS|W|P|minnesotademocratsexposed@hotmail.com8/18/2005 06:16:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Ashley's Truth|W|P|Be on the alert. Per Jay Heffern, Mpls. City Attorney, the Ethics Officer, Burt Osburn, Assistant City Attorney, has been given the assignment of investigating Conroy's illegal conduct. Why would Jay Heffern ask an Assist. City Attorney to investigate another Assist. City Attorney. Rather stupid isn't it. Guess What? There is a cover up currently in progress at the City Attorney's Office. Osborn, is refusing to investigate Conroy's illegal behavoir. I hope the MDE keeps on top of this matter. Please don't let this matter slip by your hands. P.S. Conroy knew exactly what she was doing and she lied to the newspaper. Conroy's reputation in the City Attorney's Office is that she is not a very credible person. Conroy, along with Jay Heffern and Peter Ginder should be fired.